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  • Member since
    December 2005
  • From: Pennsylvania (big state)
Revell constitution
Posted by Big Ole Bob on Monday, June 16, 2008 11:11 PM

Long time no post.

Model Update:

Revell Constitution: 1/96 scale

The fear of rigging this model delayed it for almost a year. Fortunately I discovered someone I already knew in a chat room is an -experienced- modeler. They pointed me to the knotting instructions that revell doesnt give and some nice photos of rigging hookups that just doesnt match with revells vauge instruction imagery. No new photos yet. I'm still in the process of rigging up the spars before glueing them in. Were it not for jobs, caffine and late night movies Ild be done with those by now.

 The Real reason of this post is in reguards to the 1/196 scale constitution model.

The following link. So far to date. Is the only and Highest quality rigging job to this model that I am aware of.

http://www.jasper-moeller.de/galleries/Schiffe/Constitution/slides/Constitution-18.html

I examined the rigging plans that revell provides in the 1/96 model that im currently doing. I then went through and tried to see what his model was missing. It helped to identify what goes where and to familiarize myself with some of it.

I discovered that he seemed to be missing the footropes, Either that or there so close to the yards that they seem like there attached to the yards themselves directly.

There also seemed to be missing gammoning on the bowspit.

I'm not trying to insult his work. I mean Great goodness to me its absolutely AMAZING! I mean.. WOW... But it also had me thinking.. How I might modify that model or acomplish what he's doing.

I know with this model. If i atempt it. (after the 1/96 is done) That it would include a lot more innacuracies than the 1/96 scale. In my opinion it would need some Minor modifications for things like oh... Bowspit gammoning. But the biggest thing I noticed missing from his model was Blocks. On that scale i suppose there would be a lot of scale problems with line for rigging and blocks themselves so I would throw accuracies out the window and concentrate on atempting the rigging job.

As for the blocks I saw tiny glass 'seed' beads in the necklace section of a craft store. Complete with a hole through the middle. They seem as if they could possibly work as block but only if a small enough thread could be found that two or more lines could pass through them. Possibly Fine electrical wire without that plastic shielding. Like windings to an old motor.

As for the pin rails I think I may have discovered a somewhat acceptable method of connecting lines to them. A pinvice would be used to drill a hole thorugh the hull at the pinrail line. Line would be thread through the hole and ca glued in place. Provided that the ca glue itself hasnt filled that tiny hole it would be filled on the outside and painted back over so that the drill holes wouldnt be noticeable.

Now mind you I don't know how small a pinvice drill you can get is. So I've been thinking of other things that could be glued on as a possibly pinrail subsitute.

I'm thinking of having fun with the 1/196 scale model If I do it. Lots of innacuracies in scale but to the most part a good attempt of rigging. The biggest thing I look forward to is the paint job. For this model I'ld love to do with the paint job everything im not even atempting to with the 1/96 scale. A woodgrain texture to immitate a kind of 'wooden model' appearance. Though with a black plastic hull I suppose that is going to provide to be a difficulty.

There's lots of 'woodgrain simulation' discussions in the forums here. But for now. I need to finish the big one. Then I'll go for the small one..

If anyone has Ousted the said link in detail for that small of a model. or the similarly small Cutty Sark or older Flying cloud or ?thermoplate? Please post a link So i can check them out.

Thank you.

Big ole bob

If you can think it. Then someone has else has also thought of it. Then someone else has tried it. Then someone else tried and completed it. Then someone else tried and proved it CANT BE DONE!
  • Member since
    February 2008
  • From: San Bernardino, CA
Posted by enemeink on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:53 AM

you can buy some wood blocks from modelexpo for a little under 4 bucks for 20 of them or so. the last ship that I built I used the small links out of a cheap gold chain that i bought at walmart to help me rig.

http://www.modelexpo-online.com/cgi-bin/sgsh0101.exe?SKW=BLOCK@&FNM=16&UID=2008061711454518

 

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  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Lacombe, LA.
Posted by Big Jake on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:52 PM

Big Old Bob,

I found this link to see some real Detailed pictures of a rigging. Scrool down a little bit and you will see what the rigging is like, these are pictures of the Model in the USs Constitution Museum I "think". Don't know what scale but the detail is real good.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/409174/thread/1200113829/Building+the+Monogram++1-120+Scale+Constitution

 

Here is a link to my webshots album and the link to my Cutty Sark Album.  Enjoy.

Albums

http://community.webshots.com/user/jbgroby

Cutty Sark

http://news.webshots.com/album/208514027pzrDjh

On the Cutty Sark, I used the rigging out of the box with a few exceptions ( Coats and Clark brand thread) on the shrouds which are all hand tied. That rigging is Coats and Clark Button and Carpet thread found at Wal-mart.

You can rig a particlular nice model of the Big "C" from Revells kit.  The following things I have done in the past to make the model more realistic for my clients.

1. make and add the gangway bulwarks (carved eagle) to the sides entrances (sp) to the model.

2. Drill the center our of the cannon port doors and half them as she is now.

3. use different and correct sized riging for the model.

4. overlay thin basswood over the plastic deck to get rid of the seams.

5. remove some of the stern decoration.

 

  

 

 

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