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Heller 1/100 Caravel "Nina" completed photos

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  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Portsmouth, RI
Posted by searat12 on Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:34 PM

 kapudan_emir_effendi wrote:
If I remember correctly, Portugal has a replica caravel named Bartolomeu Dias which carries the same rig with Heller's Nina. I remember reading about it in a book treating yacht building, and I don't remember any particular remarks about a negative sail performance. In any case, pure lateen rigged vessels were very rare in transoceanic travels; those caravels which the iberian explorers took with them were almost always redonda or square rigged. Nina itself was re-rigged as a four mast carabela redonda in Canaries before Colon set sail for his transatlantic voyage.

Yup, there are Caravels, and then there are Caravels!  A three-master, or four-master would work well, but with the two-masted lateen ketch-rig (not sure what else to call it!), I can't see how it would get out of the harbor, let alone across the ocean, as the weather helm must be unbelievable!

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    March 2007
  • From: NJ
Posted by JMart on Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:34 AM

very nicely done... maybe I will track this one down on sale or something to build with my kid (she likes 'small sailboats") instead of that "Pirates of the Carribean" pseudo-ship.

 

I like your paint job, all in all a very nice build in my eyes :)  cheers

 

 

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  • From: West Virginia, USA
Posted by mfsob on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 5:44 PM
Ed - you da man.
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  • From: istanbul/Turkey
Posted by kapudan_emir_effendi on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 5:19 PM
If I remember correctly, Portugal has a replica caravel named Bartolomeu Dias which carries the same rig with Heller's Nina. I remember reading about it in a book treating yacht building, and I don't remember any particular remarks about a negative sail performance. In any case, pure lateen rigged vessels were very rare in transoceanic travels; those caravels which the iberian explorers took with them were almost always redonda or square rigged. Nina itself was re-rigged as a four mast carabela redonda in Canaries before Colon set sail for his transatlantic voyage.
Don't surrender the ship !
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  • From: Portsmouth, RI
Posted by searat12 on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:56 AM
One thing that has always bothered me about this ship (not the model, the ship design itself) is that I have never been able to figure out how something like this might actually sail.  Look how far aft the masts and sails are!  If you think the Bomb Ketch would be difficult to sail (and it had a number of jibs to a large bowsprit), can you imagine how much weather helm something like this must have had?  I can't help but think that the main mast should be moved quite a ways forward, perhaps so that the lateen yard would reach at least to the stem piece..... Either that, or add a third mast, otherwise you don't have a ship, just a weathervane!
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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:42 PM
Excellent overall build, although I had the same question about the boat.  I particularly like the wood effects that you have on the decks and the hull.. Keep up your good work and try upgrading to more complex sailing ships . . . you might actually enjoy them; you seem to have the necessary skills!Thumbs Up [tup]
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    January 2006
Posted by EPinniger on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:45 PM
 GeorgeW wrote:
Is the ships boat supplied with the kit - it looks a little crude in form almost like a dugout.

Was the intention for it to be displayed inverted on the deck, as in your first few pictures; I ask because the absence of any thwarts and the sink holes apparent in the moulding do detract from the overall effect of the model.

The boat is not actually glued in place (as you can see, it's upside down in some photos) - I just placed it on the deck to photograph the model. I think it's meant to represent a simple boat made from skin/leather over a wooden frame, like a coracle in construction - so it would be fairly light and would not need to be stowed on thwarts. I'm not sure where it would be stowed normally, upside down on a clear area of the deck seems reasonable, though presumably it would be tied down when not in use? I can't remember what the kit instructions specified, although Heller instructions aren't the most reliable for accuracy anyway.

I should add that although I enjoy building model sailing ships, they are not my main area of interest or expertise, so I sometimes (often!) make mistakes like this!

 

  • Member since
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  • From: The green shires of England
Posted by GeorgeW on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:17 PM

Is the ships boat supplied with the kit - it looks a little crude in form almost like a dugout.

Was the intention for it to be displayed inverted on the deck, as in your first few pictures; I ask because the absence of any thwarts and the sink holes apparent in the moulding do detract from the overall effect of the model.

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  • From: portland oregon area
Posted by starduster on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:23 AM
  Thanks EPinniger for these photos and also the Hansa Cog, I've been working on a few model ships and your photos has again got me started on finishing mine, which I'll post here as well, have you tried using the sails that come with the kit as forms to cast paper sails ? great model work. Karl
photograph what intrests you today.....because tomorrow it may not exist.
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Heller 1/100 Caravel "Nina" completed photos
Posted by EPinniger on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:37 AM






I completed this over a year ago, but thought you might still like to see it: this is the Heller 1/100 scale kit of Columbus's caravel "Nina". I built it more to represent a generic 15th century merchant caravel, as nobody knows exactly what Columbus's ships looked like.
This was my first attempt at building a sailing ship with all the rigging, including blocks; having only two masts and sails, it's not too challenging to rig. As with the Hansa Cog, I put the (vacformed plastic) sails on this model, as it looks distinctly bare without them. The crosses are hand painted, and the sails are first painted in a canvas colour, then lightly drybrushed.

The model was painted with Revell acrylics - hull Leather Brown, lower hull matt black (Tar Black wasn't available in early 2007!) and deck Earth Brown drybrushed with Stone Grey. Drybrushed craft acrylic paint was used to get the wood grain effect + weathering streaks on the hull.







I would also highly recommend this kit as a "starter" sailing ship - if you can find it! Though about 30 years old, the kit is nicely moulded and detailed, and easy to assemble. The Heller "Pinta" kit is similar (the hull is identical) but with a more elaborate superstructure + forecastle, and possibly a different rig.

Has anyone built the 1/100 scale caravel kit produced by the Portuguese manufacturer "Occidental"? The box art looks a lot like the Heller Nina, but I don't know if it is the same mould.

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