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Revell 1/144 Apollo Saturn V Rocket with Paper LUT & Crawler

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Revell 1/144 Apollo Saturn V Rocket with Paper LUT & Crawler
Posted by Lancair IV on Friday, July 24, 2009 6:17 PM

With the anniversary of Apollo 11 and Man stepping on the moon, I decided to build this model for about the 4th time in my life.  Each time they get better and better.  Well, I finished her up yesterday less a coat of mat or dull finish.  This is a good thing.  Something just didn't look right after the decals were applied.  I looked at the box and realized the USA and UNITED STATES decals were printed in black.....Not Red....WTF...Revel supplied decals in black and not red.....Why would they do this?  After searching the Internet and finding out I was right in assuming the decals should have been red, I ordered a set from Space Model Systems.  

http://www.spacemodelsystems.com/

Then I ordered the LUT and crawler from David Maier at  http://educraftdiversions.org/

Should look pretty good sitting in my Den when it's all done.

I'll post pictures later tonight if I get a chance. 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by Lancair IV on Friday, July 24, 2009 8:18 PM

Pictures of the stupid black decals.  Man this really pisses me off.  I hope they come off without damaging the finish.......

 

 

 

 

I guess I'll finish up the engines whil I wait for the new decals and LUT...

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by hawkhero on Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:59 PM
I was goimg to buy the kit. Wonder if I should wait for the Airfix kit?
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Posted by Vagabond_Astronomer on Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:38 PM

The folks at Revell-o-Gram are pretty obstinate about this; when I discovered that they had done this, I wrote to them, as had a few other space modellers. Basically; tough, get the replacement decals.

Revell's new corporate masters are going to ruin the company.

"I have loved the stars too dearly to be fearful of the night..."
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Posted by Lancair IV on Monday, July 27, 2009 9:31 AM
 Vagabond_Astronomer wrote:

The folks at Revell-o-Gram are pretty obstinate about this; when I discovered that they had done this, I wrote to them, as had a few other space modellers. Basically; tough, get the replacement decals.

Revell's new corporate masters are going to ruin the company.

 

I wrote Revell as well.  Why would they do this?  They're already printing red in the flags....Sounds like a screw up that they refuse to admit and fix.  Maybe it's time to boycott Revell!!!!!!

 

 

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by Lancair IV on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:53 AM

Finally received a response from Revell.

Robert,

This is an error with the decals. Unfortunately, we do not have any replacements with the correct lettering in Red.

We have advised our Engineering and Graphics department about this.  It will not be changed at this time, unless the company decides to re-run the kit in the future.

If there are any other questions regarding any other Revell model kits please feel free to send your email to Cservice@revell.com and one of our staff members will be more than happy to respond back to you.

Regards,

Revell Inc

Consumer Services

 

Cheers

 

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by Lancair IV on Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:46 PM

I received the decals from Space Model Systems.  They are awesome.  I think every marking for the Saturn V is there.

 

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by Lancair IV on Monday, August 03, 2009 6:15 PM

I received the Crawler and LUT today........These things are going to be a handful, but should look pretty awesome when complete.....Should I keep posting, or is everyone tired of this?

 

Whistling [:-^]

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 12:58 AM
Is this one of those paper kits you see on Ebay?  I'd like to see it built as I've thought about getting one myself.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by Lancair IV on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 7:51 AM

 lewbud wrote:
Is this one of those paper kits you see on Ebay?  I'd like to see it built as I've thought about getting one myself.

 

Yes it is.  I contacted the supplier directly rather than using E-bay.  The Crawler and LUT arrived from California in less than a week.  There's probably 30 sheets and a CD with the instructions.  I'm letting the sheets flatten out before I start, plus it's giving me time to apply all the awesome decals from Space Model Systems.  I have no idea how to build a paper model, but I think I'm about to learn how.

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by Lancair IV on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:49 PM

The Saturn V is complete.  I built her as Apollo 13 which I saw lift off when I was 8 years old.  I'll never forget it.

Complete Apollo 13 with the RIGHT Decals 

 

I started the LUT by cutting out the sides and platform, then gluing them together making sure everything is as square as possible.

Parts making up the platform

The four sides have been glued together and the platform glued to the sides.

 

Tomorrow, I'll start the structure that will go underneath the platform and giver her the strength she needs to hold up Apollo 13.

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by lewbud on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:51 PM

Rob,

Looking good.  Been thinking about buying one of those and using it as a pattern for a plastic build.

Next time you decide to build a Sat V, make sure you get Real Space's Sat V conversion.  It replaces the kit's inaccurate SLA and CSM.  You did a bang up job.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by maffen on Sunday, August 09, 2009 5:23 AM
I wish I could build models half as good as this!Thumbs Up [tup] 
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Posted by Lancair IV on Sunday, August 09, 2009 7:25 AM

 maffen wrote:
get a life,would you? Thumbs Down [tdn]

 

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed.....

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by Summit on Sunday, August 09, 2009 10:14 AM

Rob -  Fantastic job Approve [^] Thumbs Up [tup] The red decals really make a difference. I am also looking forward to seeing theSaturn V on the new platform...

Several years back I built an Estes Flying Saturn V. What a Great kit that was plus a challenge of skill. It turned out so nice I never could get the nerve to launch it. I kept it on display at a hobby shop I worked at untill some collector came in and offered an obscene price for it. Needless to say I thought about buying another to build after learning from the first one.

Right now I do have the Revell 1/96 in various stages of construction. There is Something magical about those rockets ( Saturn V , Mercury Redstone , Little Joe , ) for me from being a kid in that space era.

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Lancair IV on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:51 PM

Hey guys.  It's been a while.  It took me several days to cut the platforms out and glue them together.  What am I doing?  There's 18 of them, each had 4 sides and a bottom to glue.  Not to mention the parts that will go onto each level.  Oh well.  Here's a few pictures.

The 18 platforms, cut and glued together

 

Close up detail of one platform

 

Underside of the platform.  Since it is not supplied, I had to print out a color copy from the manual and bond it to the underside of the platform using gold leaf adhesive.

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by Lancair IV on Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:29 PM

It took me 3 days to cut out and glue together the structures that go on the platforms.  This thing is out of control.  I wish I were building plastic or brass again.......

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by fermis on Thursday, September 03, 2009 8:09 PM

 AH HA! So this is where you've been hiding!

 Looks good buddy, also sounds like a bit of a chore! That's a lot of stuff.

 Lancair IV wrote:

 I wish I were building plastic or brass again.......

 

 

 The truely beautiful thing about this hobby is....you can!!!

 Don't forget...october 10, contest in Kalamazoo!!!

 

     FERMIS

 

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Posted by mallagoodee on Friday, September 04, 2009 4:04 AM
Keep posting these pix!!

Not having done anything in paper, give me an idea what you're using for supports. On each of the 18 levels are you wrapping the paper around a stronger core of something, or is the 'paper' quite thick, more like cardboard. And all the little details, are they just folded and glued paper?

This is the first in-progress build I've seen of the LUT so keep 'em coming.

And it looks like you're doing a superb job on it!!

Pete
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Posted by Lancair IV on Friday, September 04, 2009 9:41 AM

 mallagoodee wrote:
Keep posting these pix!!

Not having done anything in paper, give me an idea what you're using for supports. On each of the 18 levels are you wrapping the paper around a stronger core of something, or is the 'paper' quite thick, more like cardboard. And all the little details, are they just folded and glued paper?

This is the first in-progress build I've seen of the LUT so keep 'em coming.

And it looks like you're doing a superb job on it!!

Pete

 

Thanks Pete,

 

     The paper is a 60 lb test according to the web site.  It's fairly strong and should do the job.  The platforms are just folded and glued paper.   It's amazing how strong a section gets when you bend a flange 90 degrees.  The launch platform has 1/4" think foam board built up for the structure.  I forgot to take pictures of this before I closed it up.  sorry..  For the back bone of the tower, I used a piece of poplar cut to the exact size, then wrapped the cardboard around it using spray contact cement.  She should be strong enough.

Cheers

 

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by Astrazoic on Friday, September 04, 2009 3:34 PM
This is a really neat build-up. I look forward to seeing the completed project.

Phil Smith

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Posted by Lancair IV on Sunday, September 06, 2009 12:49 PM

Levels 1, 2, and 3 assembled to the vertical girders.  Things will straiten out when the girders are attached to the platform.

 

Cheers and have a Happy and Safe Labor Day

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by Lufbery on Friday, September 11, 2009 9:55 PM

Rob,

You've done some very nice work! My son and I are building the Revell kit too. He's three years old, going on four in  November, so he helps me with gluing and some painting, but I'm doing a lot of the work. Neverthless, he has gotten a lot of hands on time with this model.

I'm glad to read that better decals are available. The black text just doesn't look right.

I'm anxious to see more of your work on the launch tower.

Regards,

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

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Posted by Lancair IV on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:40 PM

Making some progress

 

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by mallagoodee on Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:46 AM
That's really looking good!
I just followed the link you provided to the LUT's site to see if he had any pix of the finished product, and to compare whereabouts you are regarding the finished product and ... YIKES!! I was blown away by the detail he's included in the 'model'!

I'm pleased to see no warping in yours and it looks like you've got a really good framework going, on which to build all those coming details!

Is all the piping done in paper too? Do you think you'll use the kit parts or replace 'em with styrene rods or tubes?

Man oh man, I'm looking forward to this more than I was before!!
Just keep doing what you're doing!! And thanx for posting!

Pete
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Posted by darth_trader on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:52 AM
I'm an aircraft modeler snooping around the space forum.  Your Saturn V is looking terrific, I'll be back to keep checking on your progress.  Keep up the great work!
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Posted by Kugai on Monday, September 28, 2009 7:38 AM

That tower assembly ( and, of course, the rocket itself ) looks great!  I'm going to have to reconsider those paper kits.  I've kind of disregarded them up til now.

A question about the SaturnV: was this the recent commemorative re-issue with Buzz Aldrin's picture and name tied in for the Apollo 11 anniversary?  My son was wanting one and I figured if that was the one with the decal issue then I would just order the correct ones at the same time as I get the kit.

If that re-issue does have decal problems, maybe Buzz Aldrin should know about Revell's attitude when they goof this big on something with his name on it, especially since he flew in the original. 

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Posted by Lancair IV on Monday, September 28, 2009 8:27 AM
 Kugai wrote:

That tower assembly ( and, of course, the rocket itself ) looks great!  I'm going to have to reconsider those paper kits.  I've kind of disregarded them up til now.

A question about the SaturnV: was this the recent commemorative re-issue with Buzz Aldrin's picture and name tied in for the Apollo 11 anniversary?  My son was wanting one and I figured if that was the one with the decal issue then I would just order the correct ones at the same time as I get the kit.

If that re-issue does have decal problems, maybe Buzz Aldrin should know about Revell's attitude when they goof this big on something with his name on it, especially since he flew in the original. 

 

Hi Kugai,

 

     Thanks for the compliment.........Yes...The Saturn V was the Buzz Aldrin re-issue.  The decals were screwed up, unfortunately, I didn't realize it until after I applied them.  it took me 2 days to get them off.  I ordered a new set from http://www.spacemodelsystems.com/ and they worked great.  Good question about Buzz.....I wonder if he knows?

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by slingshot392 on Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:45 PM
This is really looking great! I have this model and after reading this thread, I also ordered the replacement decals.  The launching platform looks great as well.  Is it very hard to put together?  I haven't put together a paper model yet although I have bought a couple and have some nice free ones as well to do some time.
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Posted by Lancair IV on Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:38 AM

 slingshot392 wrote:
This is really looking great! I have this model and after reading this thread, I also ordered the replacement decals.  The launching platform looks great as well.  Is it very hard to put together?  I haven't put together a paper model yet although I have bought a couple and have some nice free ones as well to do some time.

 

Thanks Slingshot......I haven't been able to work on this since my surgery and the 8 week recovery.  I'm not supposed to lift my hands above my shoulders and the LUT stands almost 6 1/2 feet high while it's sitting on my bench, so I've put it aside for now.  It's not that hard to build.  Just takes time and patience.

Thanks for looking

 

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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