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How Did the Guys in the LEM Sleep?

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WZ2
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How Did the Guys in the LEM Sleep?
Posted by WZ2 on Saturday, May 1, 2010 2:25 PM

How did the guys in the LEM sleep, especially the longer missions?     There were no seats to my understanding.   Seems like it would be hard to sleep if you were on the moon - pretty exciting.   But some of the later missions lasted 2-3 days.  Did they curl up on the floor or something?

 

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Posted by jimbot58 on Saturday, May 1, 2010 9:20 PM

True, the seats were eliminated for weight and I believe they piloted the craft while standing. My guess would be laying on the floor as well. I have also wondered about other things, such as the basics of life, such as bodily waste. How were these things managed when you were crammed into a space as small as a car with two other guys?

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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, May 1, 2010 10:28 PM

They retired to their luxurious staterooms to sleep and used the PortaJohns behind the sound stage, same as the film crew...Wink

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Posted by Mike F6F on Sunday, May 2, 2010 11:22 AM

On the Apollo 11 mission, it was thought they'd just find a place on the deck, or engine cover and try to snooze.  They weren't going to be there that long.

From Apollo 12, with the crews remaining "overnight", they had hammocks they could rig.

One crossed over the other with the very cramped ascent stage.

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Posted by WZ2 on Sunday, May 2, 2010 3:28 PM

Mike,

 

YES YES - hammocks!   Now I remember Walter Cronkite or someone talking about them.   Thanks for bringing back the memory.

 

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Posted by broncosteven on Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:49 PM

Correct,  In one NASA bio I read I want to say that Neil sat on the floor proped up gently against a wall and Buzz tried laying on top of the ascent engine. They had a rest period after landing but it was shorter than planed. Their EVA was only just over 2 hours then they had a longer rest period but neither guy said they got much if any sleep due to the dust and fans, heaters, and pumps whirring and kicking in. 

I want to say that the MOCR asked them (or at least Neil) to stay in their suits incase of a rapid depressurization which didn't help.

Nasa added the Hammocks with Apollo 12.  I think things got marginally better with the J missions because they were able to tweak the layouts and stowage plus the J mission LM's were a tad bigger to accomodate the increased duration and sample loads they brought back.

For bodily functions they used bags while on the moon which got tossed with other non essentials before liftoff. 

 

 

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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, May 22, 2010 10:29 PM

broncosteven

For bodily functions they used bags while on the moon which got tossed with other non essentials before liftoff. 

 

So much for "take only pictures, leave only memories"! Big Smile

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Posted by dcaponeII on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:47 PM

You forgot the most important part of the answer...."with their eyes closed!!!"

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Posted by Jeebus on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:27 PM

I guess the next visitors to the moon better watch their step, or they'll be tripping over frozen people poopStick out tongue

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Posted by dirkpitt77 on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:01 PM

   I read an article or a book or something that mentioned the archeological value of the original six lunar landing sites and how they proposed to preserve them if later we were to colonize or develop the moon further.  Very interesting read.

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Posted by mitsdude on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:50 PM

dirkpitt77

   I read an article or a book or something that mentioned the archeological value of the original six lunar landing sites and how they proposed to preserve them if later we were to colonize or develop the moon further.  Very interesting read.

Now that would be interesting. The 11 site would be the most historical. With virtually no erosion or weathering they should be in pristine condition. Colors may be faded and fabrics brittle due to the radation.

 

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Posted by Static Addict on Saturday, January 29, 2011 6:40 PM

This has all taken me back 41 1/2 years.  When is someone going to set foot on the moon again????????

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, January 29, 2011 6:50 PM

When we get a sense of real adventure and drive, in regards to the future again. The Space Shuttle was a stagnation of the space program.

 

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, January 29, 2011 10:34 PM

here's a page from the ops manual for the landing...

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Posted by OctaneOrange on Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:04 PM

Don't the ISS astronauts strap themselves to the wall or something? (so you don't float off while asleep)

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Posted by JRThro on Saturday, February 26, 2011 7:56 PM

Where did you find that?

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Posted by dmk on Monday, February 28, 2011 9:54 AM

OctaneOrange

Don't the ISS astronauts strap themselves to the wall or something? (so you don't float off while asleep)

The ISS astronauts slip into a lightweight bag that is attached to the wall.

They demonstrate it in the IMAX movie about the ISS.

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Posted by Jeebus on Friday, March 4, 2011 7:43 PM

Static Addict

This has all taken me back 41 1/2 years.  When is someone going to set foot on the moon again????????

 

Not in your lifetime,,, or mine either.

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Posted by styrenetamer on Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:12 AM

In Earth orbit they only need simple restraints in zero gravity to secure them in one spot 'floating'. On the Moon the astronauts had 1/6th of earth gravity Apollo 12 and after provided hammocks they rolled out on the floor.

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Posted by mitsdude on Saturday, January 19, 2013 12:43 PM

I dont know how I would have able to sleep knowing that only a thick "mylar" separated me from a vacuum and freezing temperatures.

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Posted by gobbly on Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:53 AM

this is the perfect application for a therma-rest.  Strap it to the wall, then strap yourself to it.  Heck, you could sandwich yourself in them and just go floating around the cabin!

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Posted by f1steph on Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:20 PM

I've never thought about this until I saw the movie ''Apollo 18''. Okay, it's a fantasy movie but you see the hammocks in the LM and how they were placed inside. I guess thay did some research for this movie. I was really surprised about how well the SFX were done for this movie.

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Posted by mitsdude on Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:35 AM

Very nice special effects wasted on a very stupid movie.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:54 AM

Watch Apollo 18. Its a terrible terrible terrible (cant stress how terrible it is) movie, but i has some good shots of LEM interiors.

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Posted by eatthis on Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:35 AM

the america caught the moon took a dump and left lol

 

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Posted by mitsdude on Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:07 AM

From what I've recently read they pretty much didn't sleep. The excitement and noise from equipment kept them awake or very "fitfull", restless sleep. I can imagine every little hiss, klunk, klink, klang, would make you think " crap, is that all the air leaking out or a puncture in the wall"?

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:14 PM

Go rent the HBO series "From The Earth To The Moon". Made in the late 90's it tells the story of the US Space program from Mercury thru Apollo, with the main emphasis on Apollo. It was a HBO/Tom Hanks effort along the lines of "Band of Brothers" and has some really great sequences. When paired up with "The Right Stuff" and "Apollo 13" it gives a really comprehensive view of the US Space program and the race to the moon. (including a sequence with sleeping in the LEM)

 

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Posted by mitsdude on Sunday, March 3, 2013 2:14 AM

"the america caught the moon took a dump and left lol"

 

 

Yes indeed. Its been replaced by what the Romans called "Bread and Circuses"!

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, March 3, 2013 2:04 PM

Ain't that the truth...

 

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Posted by f8sader on Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:10 AM

Bgrigg, you stole my thunder!  Very good!

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