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Nightmare on Apollo 11 build

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    March 2010
Nightmare on Apollo 11 build
Posted by stcat on Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:32 AM

I am building the Buzz Aldrin rocket hero series Saturn V.

The 1st and 2nd stages have such a mismatch when you try the ends that I can only conclude oval spacescraft were all the rage in the 60's. Big Smile

To fix it, I did one side well (using my new Touch n Flow applicator) with pro-weld.  Looks great.  But the other side of the two stages have a significant mismatch to where the only choice is Squadron White mixed with Testors.

Did so to fill the seam.  Filed down. Primed.  Saw where the putty was leaving gaps.  Sanded it down again. Put on putty. More gaps as if it just has to dry like the surface of the moon.

Sanded it off.  Added more testors.  Brushed it on.  Dried again and low and behold, craters appear again.  Tried adding enough putty so that I could sand off craters.  Larger craters appeared.

It's Florida and I'm in my garage.  There is constant humidity.  Should I just pack it in and find a place inside in the AC?

4 days of sanding and trying again.  My rocket is about to become Apollo 1.

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    December 2015
Posted by dcaponeII on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:09 AM

When I did my Mercury Redstone from the Glencoe kit I had four pieces of banana to assemble.  You need to use warm water to reshape the parts.  Once you've secured the side that lines up ok you should place the parts into very warm water to soften it enough to flex it into the proper shape.  Use tape to hold the circle and glue the offending seam into place.  Let everything dry thoroughly before you dissemble it.  You might need to use a set of clamps to "squeeze" the out of true cross section into the correct shape.

Hope this helps but I would definitely NOT use filler.  You'll never eliminate the out of rounds appearance.  How are you dealing with the incorrect color decals??

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    March 2010
Posted by stcat on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:19 AM

I haven't dealt with that yet.  Not sure who does aftermarket.  What I might do, as I have at the past, is find high res photos, photoshop them and make decals out of them, as I did with a previous Studebaker build.

I've just taken the easy way out. The local hobby store restocked the kit after I bought the last Apollo, so I bought that one too.  Now I can start fresh on Stage I.  Expensive, but worth avoiding the aggravation of fixing my mistakes.

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    June 2004
  • From: Central Cal
Posted by mhvink on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:25 PM

Excellent and correct decals can be found from Rick Sternbach at http://www.spacemodelsystems.com/decals.html

I got a set and they are perfect.

Mike

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    March 2010
Posted by stcat on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:16 PM

I just ordered a set from Rick.

When assembling the new Stage I, I did a better job, but I swear that after I microwelded the two parts together, it shifted when it dried.  The seams are almost gone.  I did some Mr. Surfacer 1000 and can see there is still some putty work ahead.  Grrr.

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    April 2008
Posted by Kizzy on Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:33 PM

I built the Buzz Aldrin Saturn V kit about six months ago and had a similar experience, although from the sound of it, not quite as bad.  In my case, it was only Stage II that had a significant mismatch, Stage I and III were pretty close and didn't require much tweaking.

For Stage II, one of the halves was maybe 2 mm shorter in radius than the other half, such that, when aligning one side perfectly, the other would not join together evenly.

The first thing I did was to gently flex the two halves to make them closer together in size.  So, I would flex the larger half inward, and the smaller half outward, until the difference between them was reduced to a more workable level.  This took a while, in several sessions.  It's sort of a miindless activity so you can do it while watching TV.  Just be careful not to flex too much and break one of them in half!  Anyway, this got me to a point where I could at least cement them together and get the edges to look reasonably even with only a small amount of gap showing in a few places.

Next, to fill in the gap and cover the seam, I used several applications of Elmer's White Glue.  Spread it on liberally into the seam, let it dry and then wipe off the excess.  The beauty of this was that since the rocket itself is painted in flat white, the glue blends in perfectly as is and you don't notice it at all.  Of course, if it does show, you can always just re-airbrush or repaint over the seams in your base color and it will disappear.

 

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