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  • Member since
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  • From: The flat lands of the Southeast
PE problem--Help!
Posted by styrene on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 11:56 AM
I am in the process of assembling the Italeri 1/35 M101 105mm towed howitzer, and I have the Eduard PE set for it. The other night I was gluing the PE hinges and mounting braces to the inner gun shields (all Eduard PE), and with any manipulation at all, the pieces would pop off! So, I removed, what I assume to be, the dark oxide coating with some sandpaper and reglued (using CA). Popped off again. Re-attached using 2-part epoxy. Popped off again. Reglued with CA again, and let dry for over 24 hours. Put hinges in PE bender to bend both at correct angle so I could attach the upper shield, and you guessed it, popped again Angry [:(!]. Got everything glued back together (CA), and for now it's holding, but I'm concerned it'll all pop again when I start drybrushing, and I still have a lot more stuff to glue on! (Sometimes I scuff pretty vigorously when weathering). The CA is a thin (not gel) Loctite product, and is brand new. The epoxy is Conap, and I use it to hold golf club components together. Short of stick welding, how do I get the PE to stick and stay stuck to itselfQuestion [?] Help!!

Please keep in mind this is a PE-to-PE bond (or severe lack thereof), not PE-to-plastic.

I've posed this same question to all the folks over on the dark side. Thanks in advance for any and all help.

Gip Winecoff

1882: "God is dead"--F. Nietzsche

1900: "Nietzsche is dead"--God

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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 12:42 PM
Gip,

Would the polyurethane glues such as Gorilla glue and Elmers Pro Bond work? They do expand as they cure which may be a problem, but this is the absolutely toughest glue I have ever used on anything.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: The flat lands of the Southeast
Posted by styrene on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 2:23 PM
Mike,
Thanks for the response.
Are those brand names, and do you have a source where I could lay my hands on some? Can you tell me any more about these materials? I'm intrigued...

Gip Winecoff

1882: "God is dead"--F. Nietzsche

1900: "Nietzsche is dead"--God

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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 2:43 PM
Gip,

I have bought Elmer's Pro Bond glue at Home Depot.
There is some info on it here: http://www.elmers.com/product/product_page.asp?pCode=P9402

Gorilla Glue has a web site here where you can search for it.http://www.gorillaglue.com/

This stuff is amazing, although I have never used it for smaller projects like you need. I glued a handle back on a coffee mug over a year ago with this stuff and it feels like it was never broke. Big Smile [:D]
It is interesting glue though in that it requires moisture to adhere properly, so the parts being joined have to be moistened slightly.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Washington State
Posted by leemitcheltree on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:17 PM
Gip,
I've had great results in soldering particular PE bits together - I sand the mating surfaces, apply flux, then apply heat and solder.
Obviously, it doesn't work in every possible situation, but it has worked for me.
Sticking them onto the model is another matter - CA is the only way. Gotta be careful with the dry brushing.
Cheers
LeeTree

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  • From: The flat lands of the Southeast
Posted by styrene on Thursday, November 20, 2003 6:53 AM
LeeTree,
Thanks. I've actually given some consideration to soldering some of the bits together. Are there any heat considerations? Can I use a standard 60/40 solder for brass?
Gip Winecoff

1882: "God is dead"--F. Nietzsche

1900: "Nietzsche is dead"--God

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