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Need Help
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:27 AM
I am having trouble learning what these terms are. My first question is what is a wash, how do you apply it, and what does it do? My other question is what is dry-brushing and does it ruin your brush? Another quesion is how can I use pastal chalk to weather my models? I am only usein paints and spary paints on my model. I need other ways to make my model look better. A lot of times my brush is to big to get all the fine details. Sometimes I use toothpicks, but they dry out quickly and sometimes have a drop effect. Please Help
  • Member since
    June 2003
  • From: Cavite, Philippines
Posted by allan on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 11:04 AM
Hey there, Fred.

We all use different approaches for these techniques. I'll share mine with you.

A "wash" is a technique that allows you to put subtle "shadows" in your model. Its a mixture of oil paints (burnt umber and prussian blue is what I use), primarily, and paint thinner or some other thinning solution. The oil paint is thinned down in a consistency just enough to allow the oil to "creep" in between seams, panel lines, creases, and other details.

"Dry brushing" is quite literally using a wide brush to apply almost dried paint (usually in a color lighter than the basic paint hue of the kit) to weather the model and highlight the edges. Sadly, my experience is that a brush used for this purpose deteriorates over time. Pastel chalk is used for the same purpose. It could be ground to powder and drybrushed, or applied directly onto the edges of your model.

You might want to consider getting an airbrush and compressor rig. I dare say there really is no substitute for it. There are several advantages. Paint can be applied more evenly, and in far narrower areas than a spray can. Plus, it is cheaper in the long run.

I use a toothpick too. But yes, paint tends to dry quite quickly. But there are just some areas you cant reach even with the smallest paint brushes. But patience is indeed a virtue, and Im sure youll get the hang of it.

Hope this helps! Smile [:)]

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  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 11:49 AM
Howdy Fred, welcome to the forum.

For washes I prefer to use a sludge wash which is acyrlic paste paint mixed with lots of water and a drop or two of liquid dish soap. When applied over a clear coat or Future coat it flows into all the recesses and dries quickly. Then it can be wiped with a damp cloth to remove excess from top areas and leaves a great look behind. One really nice feature of it is if you screw up you can wash it off with water and start over again without messing up your model.

For dry brushing I have a few brushes set aside just for that kind of work. When you are done with a brush clean it well then get a little soap on your finger and reform the brush tip to it's normal look - let dry that way. When you want to use it again dampen with water and wipe the soap away. You r brushes will stay nice for a long time this way.

For really fine detail I have two brushes that have only a few hairs on them and I use a magnifying visor to help see what I'm doing. Having your paints properly thinned is important also.

Having an airbrush is a great thing. If you cannot afford a compressor look into renting a can of CO2 from a welding supply shop. Monthly can rentals genreally run around $5.00/month and the gas is cheap. Be sure to get a regulator if you do that.

Check my website (link in the signiture) and you will find several articles on weathering and useful techniques. Also look at the links page for many sites that can provide more useful information.

Always happy to assist.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:21 PM
Fred-look into some cheap make-up "blush" brushes for applying pastels. Also, fine brushes are expensive, but worth it, just take the time to clean them well and reshape the point using a little spit.
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:41 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Swanny


When you are done with a brush clean it well then get a little soap on your finger and reform the brush tip to it's normal look - let dry that way. When you want to use it again dampen with water and wipe the soap away. You r brushes will stay nice for a long time this way.


I have never heard of doing that Swanny. Sounds like a good idea. Wink [;)]
Once again your tips are an asset to this forum my friend. Thumbs Up [tup]

I always wet the tip of the brush and smooth it to a point with my fingers and then put the plastic brush protector back over it. Will the soap trick make them last even longer than doing this?

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
  • Member since
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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 4:10 PM
Soap is good for long term storage but I've found a little saliva works great for day-to-day storage
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