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Oil Paint Washes
Posted by 68GT on Friday, February 19, 2010 4:05 PM

I was on the Pearl Art site and notice that there are many types of oil paint.  What type is the best to use for a wash?

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Posted by 68GT on Sunday, February 21, 2010 7:41 PM

I guess I'll just wing it and buy the cheapest thing Michaels has.

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Posted by New Hampshire on Sunday, February 21, 2010 8:15 PM

What brand really does not matter much.  As long as it is an oil paint that is what is important.  Windsor and Newtons are the most popular you can buy in the stores.  If your an armor modeler Mig Productions makes colors more suited to that genre, but a bit more pricey.  Again, being an oil based pigment is what is important, no matter what the cost.

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Posted by RESlusher on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:50 AM

I pretty much use Windsor & Newton oils.  One tube should last you a really, REALLY long time.

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:13 AM

I use Winsor & Newton also.  About the finest grain oil available.  A tube will last for many. many models so might as well go with the best.

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Posted by mark983 on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:06 PM

Just tried an oil wash for the first time last night to get darkness in the panel lines and it seemed a bit streaky...am i not thinning it enough?

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Posted by batai37 on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:37 PM

mark983

Just tried an oil wash for the first time last night to get darkness in the panel lines and it seemed a bit streaky...am i not thinning it enough?

Sounds more like you didn't mix sufficiently...it takes some effort to get the pigment to dissolve in your thinning medium (stir, stir, then stir some more), that's why some people prefer WN oils - because of the finer pigments which dissolve more readily than the "grainier" brands. I've definitely seen a difference between WN and Academy oils in the effort needed.

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Posted by 68GT on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:46 PM

I will have to get some before the weekend.

I got some Craft Smart acrylic yesterday that I want to try out some tests with.  It was only 50 cents for a 2oz bottle at Michaels.

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Posted by 68GT on Monday, March 1, 2010 8:56 PM

So how big of a tube is the Windsor & Newton?  I saw a very small tube that was smaller that the travel size toothpaste for $12.  Is that the stuff?

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Posted by batai37 on Monday, March 1, 2010 10:48 PM

Yes.  One tube will go a long way.

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Posted by 68GT on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 10:10 PM

So what kind of mix ratio am I looking for to start with?  How much solvent do I mix with a pea size amount of oil?  Just need a basic for a guide line and I'll adjust from there.  I picked up Black and Burnt Umber.

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Posted by batai37 on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 2:50 PM

A pea-size amount is probably too much...the object is essentially to add color to the thinning medium. Sort of the opposite of thinning paint actually.

For black, an appearance resembling coffee would suffice. Depending on the size of the wash job you have in mind of course, we're talking maybe a teaspoon of thinner. The amount of paint I use is a very small amount that I can scrape out of the tube end onto a small, flat spatula that I use to mix paints. Check this link for a more in-depth description:

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/tnt1/001-100/TNT043_oil-wash_Johnson/tnt043.htm

You can add paint or thin the mixture to vary the effect of the wash. Some people start with a heavier wash and gradually lighten it with additional lighter washes. It really depends on what effect you're trying to achieve, and whether you find the end result satisfactory.

IMO, some people overdo it and go too heavy on their wash, or use too dark a color that makes for too stark a contrast to the basecoat they're washing. The idea is to highlight details not to showcase your wash skills, so for me subtlety is key, but again it depends on the subject and what effect you're trying to achieve. The nice thing about oil washes is if you don't like the result, it is easily cleaned off without affecting the basecoat underneath (assuming of course you've applied the requisite gloss overcoat first).

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Posted by 68GT on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 5:03 PM

I have some empty 1/2oz MM jars so I was thinking of making some bulk on the wash and thats why I was thinking about the size of the pea.

Thanks, for the link and I'm going to try some of the tips now.

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Posted by batai37 on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 5:44 PM

I do the same thing....I have some small airtight containers I got from Michael's that I put leftover wash in. It keeps pretty well.

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Posted by 68GT on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 8:00 PM

Pretty happy with a pea sized glob with half the jar filled with Mineral Spirits.  I'm now going to play around with different concentrations.

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