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  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Green Bay, WI USA
washes
Posted by echolmberg on Friday, March 14, 2003 10:38 AM
Hello fellow modelers! I have a question about washes. I just picked up a couple of tubes of Grumbausher (I'm sure I murdered the spelling of that brand) water colors. I've heard people say that it can be thinned with water and a couple of drops of dishwashing liquid to make a wash. Has anyone ever used this brand of water colors before? How is it? I've also heard of isopropyl alcohol being used but I never knew if that was in conjunction with water colors. If so, what the difference between using the "70%" and "90%" alcohol? I look forward to hearing from everyone and thanks in advance!!

Wishing I was home working on a model,

Eric

  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 14, 2003 11:07 AM
Good questions, unfortunately I don't have alot of good suggestions for you. I've been meaning to try the Grumsalksdvvvvvioaisheeeeer stuff for a while too. My suggestion would be to just use water if you're doing a 'wash'. The cleanup and removal of the 'excess' will be easier and there is almost no chance that it will harm any of the paint or decals already on the model.
Personally, I just buy isopropyl alcohol from the drug store and I have never looked at the % on the bottle. Hope I'm not doing something wrong. Maybe someone else has some info on this.

M.
  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Pominville, NY
Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Friday, March 14, 2003 11:25 AM
I've used Grahamcracker watercolors before as well as Cottman. I've used both as washes and for other misc stuff like oil streaks and such. Dish-washing detergent, as well as Smurf Juice (winshield washer solution) helps to break the surface tension and allows the wash to soak in.

Alcohol can be used as well, but BE CAREFUL. It may have adverse effects on whatever paint or decals you may have on the model. I suggest taking a large scrap piece of plastic, or something similar , and painting it with the same stuff that's on the model or that you plan to use on the model. Throw on a scrap decal and seal it. Try out the alcohol-thinned wash at different stages to see how it might affect the paint, decals, final clear coat etc. Don't take a chance on a good model with a new and possibly risky technique.

The only difference between 70% & 90% alcohol that the modeler should be concerned with is the fact that 70% has 70% alcohol content and 90% has 90% alcohol content. LOL Tongue [:P]

Seriously though, it really won't matter too much for what we do with it, whether it be for thinning paint to spray or for other modeling related stuff.

Fade to Black...
  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Green Bay, WI USA
Posted by echolmberg on Friday, March 14, 2003 12:00 PM
Thanks for the tips guys! I came across some article somewhere where it mentioned the used of alcohol and it seemed to stress the use of only the 70% or 90% and for the life of me I can't remember which it suggested. I don't drink but I have a bottle of vodka in my pantry that I had to use once for a recipe. It's a full bottle and it would seem such a shame to throw it out. I've been tempted to see if it would work as part of a wash solution or something. Ha-ha-ha! Maybe a brush cleaner.

Since I don't want to die I guess I'll just have to keep building them models!

Eric

  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 14, 2003 5:32 PM
try re packaging it and giving it away. if its 70% alcohol, whats the other 30%?
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 14, 2003 9:41 PM
No matter what you use for a wash, I have always sealed my models with a clear coat before applying the wash.
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