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Stubborn Join Keeps Coming Unglued

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  • From: Newfoundland, Canada
Stubborn Join Keeps Coming Unglued
Posted by rodc on Thursday, August 8, 2013 12:05 PM

Guys,

I WAS getting ready to decal and old Airfix C-130 Hercules in USCG livery when the seam joining the two fuselage halves separated along the top.  This has happened twice before and I've tried gluing it with tamiya thin as well as Ambroid and Tenax.  In hindsight I should have used some small styrene tabs inside the fuselage reinforce the join and give bigger glued/bonded surface.  I have all my finish coats of paint done and don't want to force the join open to try to insert styrene tabs.  Any thoughts here?  Would CA hold it or would this be too brittle?

Advice and suggestions appreciated.

RODC

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 8, 2013 12:51 PM

Gotta hate that. I do that when I am drilling a hole at the end for an antenna or a pedestal on the bottom of a hull.

Try a more mechanical join. cut a 1/2" slot crosswise across the seam in a couple places, stick a strip of styrene down in there vertical, trim, sand, paint.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, August 9, 2013 9:52 AM

I use gel CA a lot for seams like that.  The gel is useful where the fit is not perfect (ordinary CA will NOT fill any gap, even slight ones.  And, the gel stuff is far less brittle. And, it is slower drying for longer seams so the stuff you put on first has not set yet when  you get the sides finally put together.  Use a fresh bottle/tube, as it thickens as it ages.  Neither gel nor regular CA has much of a shelf life once it is opened.  If it thickens with age it will not soak down into the joint when you apply it from outside- that is why you need the fresh stuff. I use Locktite gel CA- very good stuff.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Silver on Tuesday, April 8, 2014 5:34 PM
Attach thin plastic flat stock rods along the area in question to support the attachment .Glue them flat along the inner seam section.This will be a strong hold on the area.
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Posted by Silver on Tuesday, April 8, 2014 5:36 PM
I do this on all my large model aircraft including my 1/48 C-130 and my 1/72nd C5A Galaxy.
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Posted by Silver on Tuesday, April 8, 2014 5:38 PM
Also use Ca Gap filling cement.
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    April 2003
  • From: Newfoundland, Canada
Posted by rodc on Saturday, January 10, 2015 11:26 AM

I think I found a fix.  Three times I made the repair using Ambroid solvent, CA and combinations of these glues.  I then welded a 1/4" x 0.025 styrene strip along the join and used copius amounts of Plast-Struc solvent.  I then used successive thin coats of Tamiya filler to feather the edge.  Hopefully this will do the trick.  The C130 has been on the bench over two years and I would like to finish.  Fingers crossed!

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:26 AM

AHA :

  You jumped the gun ;

I was going to suggest this .If you had the cargo door open you could insert a piece of flat styrene -  .020 . cut to length and width from the inside and this would help solve this issue  .Mine did that too .I hadn't painted yet so I did that after pulling the fuselage apart carefully .

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  • From: Newfoundland, Canada
Posted by rodc on Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:31 AM

Unfortunately, my cargo door had such a bad warp and fit, I had to seal it closed with copious amounts of CA and putty.

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