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  • Member since
    December 2010
  • From: Raliegh, NC
Wash Techniques
Posted by DWood538 on Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:37 PM

So today I attempted to put a wash on my ejection seats that I recently hand painted, and I was thrilled because I spent a long time hand painting the details on them and they came out perfect (for me at least). I sprayed acrylic black for the base color, followed by hand brushing details with enamel, then model master acrylic clear coat to seal it all in. I then followed with a self-made enamel wash consisting of one part enamel black and 9 parts enamel thinner from a large container found at a home improvement store. When I went to clean up the excess wash a couple min later with a q-tip, the wash had eaten through the acrylic clear coat and taken out some of the hand painted details underneath.... This has me quite frustrated, because I was so happy with my work, and now it's been damaged. It's only a couple tiny spots where paint has been completely removed, so it can be quickly salvaged, but now I am hesitant to use a wash. How do you guys apply a wash that doesn't eat through previous layers? 

-Derek

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, May 8, 2014 10:42 PM

I like Future for my sealing layer between enamel base coat and any washes. That stuff is pretty much impervious to most thinners. Also you may want to try a soft  natural sable bristle paint brush rather than a q-tip for clean up. The q-tip may exert too much pressure and friction.

 

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  • Member since
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Posted by hypertex on Friday, May 9, 2014 8:03 AM

Agree with stikpusher, use a brush, not a q-tip.

I'm also wondering what is in the thinner you got at the hardware store. All thinners are not the same (read the label). I use odorless mineral spirits and oil paint for my washes and have never had it eat through any acrylic paint. Plain old mineral spirits may not work with enamel paint, so you may have to experiment with different thinners.

Chris

  • Member since
    April 2006
  • From: Denver, Colorado
Posted by waynec on Friday, May 9, 2014 8:29 AM

Get a set of decent but inexpensive brushes 40% off coupons at hobby lobby and michaels. I too use odorless mineral spirits found in same aisle as artist oils. I paint with acrylics and wash with acrylics and artist oils. I never seal the paint and have never has a problem with the basecoat being damaged and i tend to be aggressive with my washes.

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  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Friday, May 9, 2014 11:25 AM

Trying new techniques is very much a trial and error process. You may want to go find and old build of yours to use a "crash test dummy". Any and every new techniqe for finishing that you may want to try such as: pre shading, post shading, washes, dry brushing, dot filters, pastels, etc. can be tried on this old build without worrying about ruining a new build, as you had happen here. A way to find out what works for you and what does not work for you as well.

 

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  • Member since
    December 2011
Posted by Chrisk-k on Friday, May 9, 2014 12:51 PM

Use odorless mineral spirits as a thinner.

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    August 2012
Posted by AndrewW on Monday, May 12, 2014 8:13 AM

I use Flory washes over lacquer gloss, works like a charm.

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  • Member since
    January 2013
Posted by jibber on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:11 AM

I spray a Tamiya acrylic and let it dry, then add my wash of artist oils thinned with a generous amount of Turpenoid. This works every time and the wash can be controlled by the mixture, I  prefer it slightly heavier for panel lines etc.

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