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Pin wash with oil pigments
Posted by Thlorian on Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:05 AM

Hello - I am a newbie to military modeling and would like to try out a pin wash on my current model build.

For pin washes, are oil pigments the preferred medium to use in order to bring out detail, streaks, etc?

if so, is a good eyeball ratio of oil pigment to thinner 1:10, 1:15?

Lastly, which brands do you all recommend please?

Thanks!

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 13, 2014 4:10 AM

I think many do use oils for pin washes, they are certainly were my preferred method before getting the ready made AK washes. But pin washes are not used for streaks, that is something different. I prefer to use Windsor and newton oils. I have recently started using MiG oil's but so far that's only for dry brushing. As for thinning ratio's, I would hazard a guess at 1:10. I never measure, I just thin until I am happy. If its not thin enough or to thin, I can just add some more oil/thinner as needed.

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Posted by hypertex on Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:32 AM

Artist oil paints are quite popular for pin washes (I'm not sure what you mean by "oil pigments"). I have had great success with Winsor & Newton's Winton line of oil paints. I haven't tried any other brand, so I can't say they are the best. There's no reason other brands wouldn't work. I thin mine with Mona Lisa Oderless thinner. Like Bish, I don't measure the ratio but I would guess that 90% thinner is ideal.

You didn't mention what kind of paint you use as a base coat. The standard advice is to use oil washes over acrylic paint only, not enamels. The thinner may dissolve an enamel base coat.

Chris

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Posted by Thlorian on Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:06 AM

I am a newbie so my first real airbrush job will include enamel paints and thus an enamel as a primer.  I guess my understanding from my reading/learning is that Oil Pigments are another name for Oil paints??  I will give the W&N's a go as I have seen this brand mentioned in many articles.  So a pin wash is really a light "jabbing" of a tip of a fine tipped brush using a small amount of Oil paint (thinned about 1:10) onto small raised details on a model such as rivets, hinges etc. correct?  Should this be dry-brushed on (dabbed on to a paper towel first) or applied "wet"?   Thanks . . .

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Posted by Thlorian on Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:18 AM

Is this the W&N Oil Paints many of you use for pin washes:

http://www.amazon.com/Winsor-Newton-Winton-Paint-Studio/dp/B000C74GV0

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:53 AM

Ye, those are the one i use. The pin wash is put into recesses, such as between hatch's and so on and can also be put around raised details.

If your using enamel paints, you will have to apply a protective coat first. many, me included, use future. But any Acrylic varnish will do, and it supposedly works better if its gloss, but I have not found that.

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Posted by Thlorian on Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:43 PM

Ok Bish.  Should this protective coat be misted on, lightly sprayed on, or heavily sprayed on?  Thanks . . .Oh wait, I think you are talking about Future Acrylic Floor polish?  Ok, if so, apply a light coat with a rag or brush?  Heavy coat?  

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:50 PM

When using an airbrush, nothing should be heavily sprayed on. Several light coats are better than one heavy coat. Its betr to do a couple of coats to make sure you cover it all. I did not do tis once and the wash caused havoc with the enamel paint. And Future can be sprayed on un thinned.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Thlorian on Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:53 PM

OK thanks again!

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