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Armor - order of operations when building
Posted by doriangrey on Monday, January 30, 2017 4:49 PM

Hello, there are many threads related to building and weathering armor but after looking at many threads and posts I can't seem to find a definitive answer to the question of what is the order of operations when building armor.  I know there isn't an absolutely definitive order but I'd like get some thoughts on this because I'm still a bit of a noob.  This is what I think is the most logical order but I look forward to hearing from others.  Thanks!   

1.     Build 

2.   Paint

2.     Apply decals

3.     Dry brush with lighter color

4.     Coat to protect (Future and flat base - 70% future to 30% flat base) 

 

5.     Apply a darker wash

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, January 30, 2017 4:56 PM

For me:

1) build & paint

2) if heavy weathering, apply mud where needed

3)gloss coat

4) decals then washes

5) sealing coat

6)dry brushing

7) final weathering, pigments, etc.

thats just me... there are plenty of other order or steps, techniques, mediums, etc... find what you prefer.

 

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Posted by doriangrey on Monday, January 30, 2017 5:26 PM
what do you use for sealing coat?
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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, January 30, 2017 6:55 PM

My main go to for Matt Coat is Humbrol. I had been using the small tinlets, but recently they have started selling small bottles. The stuff dries dead flat and with my airbrush I have far better control than a rattle can of dullcoat. But I also have used Future mixed with Tamiya Flat Base as well. That just requires a bit of fiddling to get the ratios right. 

 

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Posted by doriangrey on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:11 PM

Doesn't the Future turn out to glossy?  I tried Future on the bottom of a recent tank build and I'm glad I tried it on the bottom first becuase it looked to glossy to me.  Maybe I need to mix the Future with something like Tamiya XF-86 clear matt coat? 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:55 PM

1) Build and paint

2) Decals

3)Dry brush

4) Gloss coat. Was future but recently swicthed to Alclad Aqua

5) Dot filtersa or light brown over all wash

6) Pin wash

7) Flat coat

8) then dusting and pigments.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:04 PM

doriangrey

Doesn't the Future turn out to glossy?  I tried Future on the bottom of a recent tank build and I'm glad I tried it on the bottom first becuase it looked to glossy to me.  Maybe I need to mix the Future with something like Tamiya XF-86 clear matt coat? 

 

Yes, Future on its' own is glossy. When you add Tamiya Flat Base, you can make it semi gloss, satin, or flat depending upon the ratio. Too much Flat Base and then it gets foggy looking. But that can be rectified with another coat of regular Future. 4 parts Future to 1 part Tamiya Flat Base is a good starting point in my limited experience.

 

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  • From: Dallas, TX
Posted by japan617 on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 3:19 PM

I've been working on my build order for armor models.

Assemble major components (leave wheels off if possible)

black basing

base coat

post shading

paint/install wheels

paint /install pioneer tools/add-ons details

future

decal

future

wash/dot filtering

future/flat coat

weathering

 

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Posted by doriangrey on Monday, March 13, 2017 2:08 PM
thank you for the replies - much appreciated! :)
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Posted by ecotec83 on Monday, March 13, 2017 6:34 PM

My order normally goes:

Build, prime and paint 

coat with future wax

apply decals

apply tamiya matt varnish

weather and attach exhaust pipes,  antennas, tools, shovels. (anything hard to paint when already glued on model)

pin wash for panel lines, oil stains and pigment powders

pull hair out trying to make it look perfect.

 

 

 

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Posted by ugamodels on Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:49 AM

Interesting.  I start with pulling my hair out trying to plan the perfect build (and how I want the diorama). In public policy it is called "analysis paralysis".

I type on a tablet. Please excuse the terseness and the autocorrect. Not to mention the erors. 

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