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Unsure of The Next Proceedure
Posted by David from PA on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 11:09 AM

Hi All,

Maybe I'm getting a bit forgetful in my old age but I have a question about what to do next. I'm building Trumpeter's 1/32 A-6E. I have the fuselage together and painted its base colors. The inboard wings are on and I intend to have the outboard wings folded. My question is: Should I glosscote the fuselage now for decaling or should I start fading/weathering and do the decals after that? I'm thinking about decaling now but I'm not sure. Thanks,

David From PA

 

 

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  • From: Lowell City, Mars
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 11:23 AM

Decals first, then weathering.  You want the decals to show the effects of weathering, the same as the rest of the aircraft.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 11:30 AM

Ditto decals first

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Posted by David from PA on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 12:21 PM

OK, thanks. So after the decals are on I can start weathering, fading, dullcoting, etc. Right?

David From PA

 

 

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  • From: hamburg michigan
Posted by fermis on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 12:27 PM

David from PA

OK, thanks. So after the decals are on I can start weathering, fading, dullcoting, etc. Right?

 

Yes...but it doesn't hurt to spray some more gloss over the decals, to seal them in good. That also gives you the same "canvas" as the rest of the model.

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Posted by David from PA on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 12:55 PM

OK, got it. I just don't want to screw this up too bad. Thanks

David From PA

 

 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:20 AM

And throw on a coat of flat clearcoat to seal in the decals.

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, March 09, 2017 9:01 AM

You want to make sure the decals get some weathering. If the paint is weathered, it looks funny to see pristine high contrast national insignias and other markings.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by David from PA on Thursday, March 09, 2017 12:46 PM

Well, what I've already done is apply the decals (which came out very nice BTW) and gloss coated the whole fuselage in preparation for washes. After the washes I'm going to have to figure out if I can mist a lighter color over the decals (simulated fading) and then, as a final step, dullcoat the whole plane. 

 

David From PA

 

 

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, March 09, 2017 2:43 PM

Oh , I gotta second and third and fourth that ! T.B. LOL.LOL.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, March 10, 2017 9:11 AM

David from PA

Well, what I've already done is apply the decals (which came out very nice BTW) and gloss coated the whole fuselage in preparation for washes. After the washes I'm going to have to figure out if I can mist a lighter color over the decals (simulated fading) and then, as a final step, dullcoat the whole plane. 

 

 

I sometimes do it that way, though if you use a flat white or light grey, you can do the fading/chalking coat after dullcoat also.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by David from PA on Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:32 AM

What I tried today was a 50/50 mix of white with dullcote thinned by about as much thinner as there was paint in the airbrush jar. Seemed ok on the test panel, I got moderate fading of the decal I put on it the other day so I'll probably just do what I did to the test panel.

David From PA

 

 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, March 11, 2017 10:03 AM

When shading, I vary the thickness of the fading coat around the airframe.  Areas that see the most sun should get the most fading.  I put heaviest fading on top of fuselage and tops of wings and horizontal tail surfaces.  No fading on bottoms.  For the fuselage I put on max thickness on top, and keep reducing it as I come around fuselage.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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