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How would you address this poor fit?

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  • Member since
    August 2015
  • From: Ypsilanti, MI
How would you address this poor fit?
Posted by Brhino on Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:12 PM

The kit is Valom's 1/72 TBD-1A Devastator torpedo bomber.

The fusilage halves, unfortunately, have got be the worst fitting pair of parts that I have ever encountered.  In the following pictures, I've used a clothes pin to lightly clamp the tail fin to hold things in place.

 

My standard game plan for two fusilage parts that don't come together quite right would be to use a hearty application of cement, clamp it down as firmly as I can, and then use sanding and putty to even out any ugliness.  I may be beyond the limit of that technique here, plus I'm wondering if there are some more advanced methods I'm not familiar with.  So... what would you do?

Who keeps stepping on wings?  Someone won't stay off the wings and now I have to apply all these tiny "NO STEP" decals.

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:21 PM

Assemble the fuselage in sections, gluing the rear portion together first. Use rubber bands to hold everything together firmly while the glue dries. Assemble the wings next and use them to help with the central and forward section. You can likely install the wings and glue the forward fuselage together at the same time.

 

 

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  • Member since
    April 2020
Posted by Eaglecash867 on Thursday, September 14, 2023 6:30 AM

Not sure what kind of cement you use, but here is what I would do.  Using Tamiya Extra Thin, I would start at the back of the tail and slowly close it up from there, working an inch or less at a time.  When you start, if you hold the two fuselage halves together at the back of the tail, leaving a tiny gap between them, you tap the Tamiya Extra Thin brush on the seam to get some cement in there.  Then I usually hold them in that position for about 20 seconds, giving the cement time to melt the plastic (with it being down in the tiny gap, it won't evaporate and will have time to work).  Then I press the two halves together at that single point and squeeze them until a little bead of melted plastic comes out of the joint.  At that point, with your project, I would clamp it on both sides of that little glue joint and give that overnight to cure.  That will give you a solid base of support for slowly zipping up the rest of the joint, using the same method above.  But now, you can speed up a little bit to a little section every hour or so, clamping (or taping) on both sides of the little joint until you have it all zipped up.  This method will allow you to slowly bend and flex things along the way to bring all of your panel lines into alignment (hopefully) and make sure that you don't have a step between the two sides of the joint.  When you're pressing the joints together, the plastic will be soft enough for you to adjust things before clamping when you're happy with the positioning.  Trying to close the whole thing up all at once is going to be like trying to push a rope.  Establish a base structure at the back so you don't have every part of the joint fighting against each other.

 

I usually don't mess around with putty when filling gaps.  I prefer to use Gorilla Super Glue with the light blue cap.  You don't have to worry about that cracking later on when you're working on the rest of the model, and the only parts of it that will come off will be the parts that you deliberately remove.  I just give the stuff overnight to cure, then scribble along the cured bead of super glue with a black Sharpie to act as a leveling indicator, and then just wet sand with progressively finer grits until all of the black is gone.  If you use a toothpick to apply just enough super glue to fill the gap, and then start with a fairly fine grit of sanding stick, you can minimize and sometimes even completely avoid damage to surrounding detail if you're careful.  About 98% of the time, that will get the gap on the first try.  Life's too short for the old fashioned putty, sand, repeat dance.  Cool

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  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, September 14, 2023 7:57 AM

Hmm!

     Personally, In the past I have used Rubber Bands in that kind of situation, or if I really wanted super tight joints then "Scotch"brand Magic mending Tape(The kind you can write on ). To assure no separation occured later I would then glue a thin strip in the upper and lower centers overlapping both sides!

  • Member since
    March 2022
  • From: Twin cities, MN
Posted by missileman2000 on Thursday, September 14, 2023 8:56 AM

For problems like that I use those mini-bar clalmpse Tey are mostly plastic, except for the metal bar.  They move in very small increments so you have an easy time seeing how much pressure you are putting on.  They are about six inches long.  I keep about six on hand.

I would also glue a strip of thin stryene inside the joint.

 

 

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, September 14, 2023 11:45 AM

A really extreme measure I had to use once was to make a horizontal cut on the smaller side, from the front edge back to the wing root. Glue the sides together and then fill in the slot.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    March 2013
Posted by patrick206 on Thursday, September 14, 2023 3:50 PM

When a warp is that severe, using the standard clamps to press the sides together can distort the molded "roundness" of the two parts, making for an uneven joining surface.  In a case like yours I use my supply of various sized metal hose clamps, they work well for maintaining the kits molded shape, aiding in restoring an aligned mating surface and allowing a proper cementing/bonding joint for strength.

They can be a bit pricey at auto supply stores, with some shopping you can find them quite reasonably at the big box stores. With a little practice you'll find the process quite effective, quick and easy.

Patrick

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, September 15, 2023 7:42 AM

Patrick:

       In all my years of modeling I never thought of That! What a spectacularly good idea!

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