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Pastel chalk. What's the best surface?

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  • Member since
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  • From: Where the coyote howl, NH
Pastel chalk. What's the best surface?
Posted by djrost_2000 on Monday, April 26, 2004 10:54 PM
Pretty soon I'm about to use pastel chalks for the first time for rust and weathering. I'm thinking that I'll spray flat laquer over the model before applying the chalk. My reasoning is that the irregular surface of a flat finish will give the chalk granules places to cling to before applying a final flat coat over the whole thing. Basically I'm thinking that a flat laquer surface will give the best grip for the chalk to cling to for when I spray the final laquer coat.

Looking for comments and suggestions.

Thanks very much,

Dave Rost
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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 26, 2004 11:59 PM
That's my experience so far. They don't stick really well to gloss surfaces. Flat surfaces will retain them much better.

Murray
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    July 2003
  • From: Pensacola, FL
Posted by Foster7155 on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:42 AM
Dave,

You're spot-on as far as a flat coat goes before applying pastels. However, if you're going to top-coat the pastels with more flat, you will see a very dramatic change in the appearance of you pastel work. You will notice that the pastel effect is seriously reduced and end up having to reapply the pastels several times to get a similar effect to the original pastels alone.

"How do you keep the pastels from rubbing off," you ask? Well, you don't. The final pastel application will rub off, but that's also an incentive to admire the model without handling it. A periodic touch up with some additional pastels is better (IMHO) than hiding all of your pastel work behind a coat of clear laquer.

Good luck on your build,
Foster

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:42 AM
You hit the nail on the head. The small surface irregularities of a flat finish will privide the pastel dust a place to settle, and thus adhere to the model.
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Posted by shermanfreak on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:07 PM
Agree 100 % with Foster .... no after-coat on any of my finishes.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:52 PM
What about an acylic flat seal. Or future diluted to be flat. Will pastels stick to that good, or does it have to be laquor?

PS: Hey Shermanfreak, have you seen my sig lately?Wink [;)]Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:30 PM
I used to loose my pastel effects upon spraying another coat too, but lately I've just misted an "almost" coat, not spraying directly, but creating a mist in the vacinity. It works fairly well. I used the method on this plastercast house and it worked nicely:

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Where the coyote howl, NH
Posted by djrost_2000 on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:14 PM
Thanks everyone for the replies. It's great posting a question on this forum, and you get more and better answers than for what you originally asked.

Thanks,

Dave
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