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  • From: Clovis, Calif
Oil Wash troubles
Posted by rebelreenactor on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 8:56 PM
I am starting to learn about washes, acrylic and oil.
I applied an oil wash to a practice model. A book i have says to wait 12-24 hrs. and then wipe away the excess paint. I waited about 20 hrs, and when i tried to wipe it away, it wouldn't come off. i used a q-tip. How long should i wait to wipe off the excess paint? Also, i use a small brush to apply the wash, but still get mixture everywhere. How can i avoid this?


thanks for the help.
John
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Posted by MusicCity on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 9:39 PM
John, have you considered using artist's water colors for a wash? Unless the surface has a flat finish, they will wipe off easily with a moistened Q-tip after about 5 minutes. I've never tried oil or enamel for a wash, but I can see a lot of inherent problems in using those. Specifically trying to get it off Smile [:)]

If you are interested in trying water colors sometime, take a look at this post for instructions:
http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11687
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 11:07 PM
Does this mean i have to spray a gloss coat over the base, then wash, then wipe, then seal with dullcoat? That could explain alot.

Thanks
John
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Posted by MusicCity on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 5:16 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rebelreenactor

Does this mean i have to spray a gloss coat over the base, then wash, then wipe, then seal with dullcoat? That could explain alot.

That's pretty much the way I do it with water color washes. I'm not sure what the steps for a oil or enamel wash would be, I've never tried that.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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  • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 9:15 AM
If your using true artist oils for a wash, then they should only be applied over a gloss finish, preferably an acrylic. Future works great. Your drying time seems pretty long. Although oils do take longer to dry than acrylics or model enamels, the very thin wash is more thinner than oil so it dries a bit faster. In any case, to remove the excess wash you need to moisten your Q-tip ( I use pieces cut from a worn out T-shirt ) with some turpentine or mineral spirits. Don't over do the thinner medium, you only want it damp not wet, and take it slow, cleaning relatively small areas at a time to avoid excess smudging. A dry Q-tip or rag won't do the trick. If using artists water colors as a wash, the same applies except your Q-tip/rag should be dampened with water.

BTW that D-Day memorial in your sig takes forever to load. A little annoying.
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 7:32 PM

thanks for the help, guys,
Should i remove the memorialthing in my sig?
It doesn'ttake to long for me because i have DSL, but i forgot about the others!
John
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  • From: USA
Posted by MusicCity on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 8:17 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rebelreenactor


Should i remove the memorialthing in my sig?
It doesn'ttake to long for me because i have DSL, but i forgot about the others!

It doesn't bother me because I have cable at home and a T-1 line at work, but in situations like that I try to think of the guys who have dial up. When they open a thread with a bunch of posts and every post has a couple of pictures in the signature it can get annoying. It's ultimately your choice though.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 11, 2004 2:21 AM
If you start off with a flat acrylic coat, you can use oiols wahes effectively. You don't need to gloss it over. Once you rflat caot is dried, thin the oil so it looks like ink. Apply the wash, then wait for about 2 mins. Use a piece of T-shirt or Q=tip dampened with whatever you thinned the oil paint with (I use turpenoid) and slowly wipe off the residue.Once yoget the look you want, fix it with a flat or gloss if you'regoing to decal. I'vre goten good results with this.
Leo Limuaco
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Posted by Richard_Craig on Saturday, June 12, 2004 12:18 PM
I think what you read was to paint the kit and wait 24 hours before adding the wash ...When i do a wash I put it on and wipe it off in just a few minutes..

Rick
  • Member since
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  • From: coastal Maine
Posted by clfesmire on Monday, June 14, 2004 4:50 PM
It may mean completely changing your attitude towards painting but I use automotive lacquers for painting (air brush only) and just about everyting washes from the finish (even oil based) so you can leave as little or as much as you want for the wash.
BTW, thanks MusicCity for the considerations of all of us on dial-up. Yes it can be annoying.
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