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How to paint the tips of 500 lb bombs yellow?

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How to paint the tips of 500 lb bombs yellow?
Posted by MikeV on Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:39 PM
How do you guys mask off the front section of a Vietnam era 500 lb bomb to paint it yellow?
I thought of using a circle template but there is no way to hold it level while you airbrush it. The bomb tip is also tapered so masking won't work very well.
Any tricks you have learned to do this?

Thanks

Mike

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Posted by chris hall on Sunday, June 20, 2004 2:34 AM
Two methods. First, try cutting a custom circle template, small emough to rest on the nose without having to be held. Then spray yellow. When dry, cut another, smaller circle template, which produces a yellow band of the required width, and spray OD. When dry, remove and touch up as required.

In 1/72, these circles will be quite small, so a punch and die set might be helpful.

Second, mix up some yellow paint in a shallow container. dip nose of bomb in paint, and let dry, nose down. When dry, mix up some OD paint, and repeat process, achieving yellow ring of required width.

Hope this helps,

Chris.
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Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, June 20, 2004 7:22 AM
Paint the whole bomb yellow and then paint the non-yellow parts some other color Smile [:)]

1) Are you using acrylics or enamels? This doesn't work that well with acrylics. Push the circle template over the nose, hold the nose with your fingers and kind of snug the circle template down at the same time. Brush liquid mask on the BACK side of the template and when dry trim it with an Xacto knife.

2) Push the circle template over the nose and use some rubber cement, BlueTack or Silly Putty on the back side to hold it while you spray it.

The problem with using a circle template on bombs and missiles is that while the bomb / missile nose is tapered the circle template is punched square. The back side of the template will be resting on the surface but the front side will be slightly off the surface so if you aren't careful you'll get a slightly soft-edged line.
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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, June 20, 2004 11:12 AM
Thanks for the answers guys.
I am using Model Master Acryl paints by the way Scott.

Chris,

I thought about dipping them as you stated but I have six 500 lb bombs with extended fuses so that wouldn't work too well. Wink [;)]
I think I will try making a circle template as you said. It is not a stripe on the bomb, it is just yellow at the tip as this photo shows:


Mike

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, June 20, 2004 11:36 AM
Go to your freindly Orthodonist & beg or buy some of the very small Retainer rubber bands. Paint the bomb yellow, carefully place the rubber band where you want the stripe, making sure it's flat to the surface & square all the way around. Paint bomb OD. Remove rubber band. Works for me.

If you want the whole front painted yellow, mask the area forward of the rubber band with liquid mask or small strips of masking tape.
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Posted by Torio on Sunday, June 20, 2004 11:55 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MusicCity

Paint the whole bomb yellow and then paint the non-yellow parts some other color Smile [:)]

The problem with using a circle template on bombs and missiles is that while the bomb / missile nose is tapered the circle template is punched square. The back side of the template will be resting on the surface but the front side will be slightly off the surface so if you aren't careful you'll get a slightly soft-edged line.


Royal Model is a company that makes templates out of metal sheet so there is no width as with plastic templates . I think that Eduard and Airwaves too make such products.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 21, 2004 8:52 AM
Ok, I'm not nearly as skilled with the airbrush as one must be to spray the tip of the bomb, even with a circle template, so I've resorted to Hasegawa's excellent Weapons kits and have used the supplied decals with very good effect. They are opaque yellow and are appropriately curved to the shape of the bomb, so no wrinkled or stretched edges appear. Don't kick me off this post: I know you asked how to _paint_ the tips; not how to decal them, but it works pretty well anyway.
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Posted by MikeV on Monday, June 21, 2004 7:55 PM
ShamRage,

These bombs are from the Hasegawa Weapons: A set and there are no decals for the front of the bombs, there are only a few stripe decals for the cluster bombs.

Mike

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Posted by Nuno Andresen on Monday, June 21, 2004 9:16 PM
The (imho) easy way to paint those bombs

1) paint nose yellow, randomly - > no mask no nothing, just paint and let dry.

2) Pick a plasticine block - dig the bombs front tip in the plasticine and spray.

Remove the bombs and voilá! Done, quick & easily!
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Posted by Nuno Andresen on Monday, June 21, 2004 9:17 PM
The (imho) easy way to paint those bombs

1) paint nose yellow, randomly - > no mask no nothing, just paint and let dry.

2) Pick a plasticine block - dig the bombs front tip in the plasticine and spray.

Remove the bombs and voilá! Done, quick & easily!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:33 PM
Remeber this... The band usually are not strait. I was an Ammo guy from the USAF. That I knowWink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 12:21 AM
Well, I think I might have a little pull on this question because all these yellow rings were handpainted, all 32 bombs' rings were handpainted...



I just painted a rough ring of MM's acylic zinc chromate yellow on the bomb, then went back with the olive drab and the back with the yellow if it needed it. I was careful not to show brush marks and once it recieved a flat seal you couldn't see any evidence. I tried making my own stencil out of sheet styrene, but it's almost impossible. Hope it helps.
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Posted by zokissima on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:32 AM
MikeV, off this topic, if you don't mind me asking, what can you tell me about MM acryl paints? I've only used one colour, and I really liked the finish. How is their OD? I only spray acrylics, and tamiya OD is just far too dark for my tastes. I used MM enamel OD before, and it was great, both out of bottle and ratttle can. I just wanted to know whether their acryl shades match their enamel shades?
If you can shed any light on this, I'd be forever indebted to you.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 2:09 PM
I use MM acrylics alot and they are excellent! Their easier to handpaint than tamiya acrylics, and thin down well with regular iso rubbing alchohol in the airbrush. The only problem is some of their shades seem to be off to me. They have a german uniforn grey, wich looks too aquaish for me, but most (basically all) of their shades are on the nail, their the right shade. My workshops full of tamiya acrylics and MM acrylics, and I use them both, so I'd get a couple more colors, hope it helps!
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 7:37 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zokissima

MikeV, off this topic, if you don't mind me asking, what can you tell me about MM acryl paints? I've only used one colour, and I really liked the finish. How is their OD?


I have not used the OD Acryl yet but the others seem to be the same as the MM enamels as far as colors go.

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 7:17 AM
MikeV, I just had an idea but haven't tried it out yet. How about a yellow tranfer lettering?
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, June 25, 2004 7:34 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by sigman

MikeV, I just had an idea but haven't tried it out yet. How about a yellow tranfer lettering?


I think that would be similar to just using yellow decal material but it might be tough being that the bomb is tapered at the tip so the decal would have to be slightly curved in order to wrap around the bomb and stay straight.
I think masking like Rick said would be the best way to approach it.

Thanks for all the tips everyone.

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 9:47 PM
I tried masking off the bombs, but my tamiya 3mm was usless againts what i was doing. Good luck though...
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Posted by Tinker on Saturday, June 26, 2004 4:00 AM
Hey MikeV:
In your photo of the A-1H, the bombs on the outer 5 pylons are 250 pounders and the big one next to the landing gear is a M-117 750lb general purpose. According to my old tech-school info ( AF A/C Weapons Mechanic, Lowry AFB, CO., 1966 ) the yellow stripe on the M-117 was 3 inches wide. The stripes on the 500 lb. MK-82 GP's and Snakeyes ,as well as the 250 lb GP's would have been the same. The " Daisy-cutter" nose fuse extentions on the Snakeyes were 36" long ( not counting the length of the nose fuse ). The easiest way to put that stripe on is to glue the "daisy-cutter" on the bomb, then use it ot chuck the bomb into a drill. Then, while making the drill turn slowly, hold a fine tipped brush loaded with yellow paint against the bomb body. As a matter of info-- we not only used the nose fuze extentions on the 500 pounders, but also on the 750's and 250's. Your A-1 photo shows 250's using them. The 250's didn't have much "blow" for the "go" and weren't used as often.
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Posted by wibhi2 on Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:13 PM
3M makes a stretchable mask (micromark) - stuff works great.

paint bombs yellow . use the 3m mask in strips to mask off yellow stripes and paint od.
No fuss no muss. The plastciene trick works great as well.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:31 PM
And back on the topic of OD, my Monogram Publications guide shows paint chips with OD in at least three different official shades -- all in use at the same time -- up into WW II. As long as it isn't too green, you can't really go wrong with that color. Oh, and if you want to put a stripe on anything small, like a bomb or even a tailhook, get those tiny rubber bands for eyeglasses at the checkout stand at your neighborhood pharmacy, next to the tiny screws and screwdrivers. So many words we have written on a tiny little yellow stripe. I don't want to think to hard about that one.
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Posted by wayne baker on Thursday, July 1, 2004 3:41 PM
Paint the tip of the bomb yellow. Make a tube of tape or paper that has the diameter of the bomb where the yellow ends, slip it over the end of the bomb, and apply the O.D. For paper, you can use a postit, since it has glue on one edge already.

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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, July 4, 2004 7:18 PM
Well guys I did it and it worked really good.
What I did was paint the tip of the bomb yellow as you said and after a few hours drying I tried this technique.
I cut a piece of heat shrink tubing about 1" long and squared the end off the best I could with a new razor blade. I then slipped it over the end of the bomb and it stayed in place nicely because of the heat shrink tubing's rubber-like nature. The results are below from a 500 lb extended fuse Mk82 that is going on the Skyraider. Big Smile [:D]



Mike

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, July 4, 2004 7:53 PM
Looks good Mike. I never tried heat shrink tubing but it looks like it did the trick.
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Posted by GLEN S on Monday, July 19, 2004 4:16 PM
another way is to chuck you ordance in a dril and tape the drill motor to your table and run at slow speed and dip brush in paint wipe on rag and then paint the strip on. i do this when making arrows
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