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    November 2005
Novice needs starting point
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 14, 2003 9:22 AM
HI

I'm new to modelling (unless you count my aweful attempts as a child). I've just purchased a Dragon Sd.Kfz. 171Panther A Late Type. Although the instructions are clear and easy to follow, they don't mention when to paint. Some of the picutres in the instructions look like paint has been applied before construction.

I'm not expecting anything great for my first serious attempt but I would like to have a go a few weathering techniques.

Can anyone give me a rough order to set about this model

e.g.

paint bulk of model first
paint detailed parts of model
assemble
weather

I have checked a few beginers guides but none really mention when extacly to paint (although I've picked up loads of other hints). I could carry on searching but I though one of the knowlegable members of this forum could set me on the right corse a lot quicker.

thanks in advance
Bryan
  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: United Kingdom / Belgium
Posted by djmodels1999 on Monday, April 14, 2003 10:13 AM
I would advise you not to paint while the parts are still on the sprues. The reason for that is that as you must have noticed, plasic parts are created in a two-piece mold that leaves, even on the best enginered kits, a visible 'mold line'. This needs to be carefuly removed, with the help of knives, sand-paper and/or files. Leaving the 'mold line' will result in it becoming VERY apparent once you reach the painting (washes and drybrushing in particular) and weathering stages.

I do things in stages, hull and inside if there's any details included in the kit first, adding wheels and tracks, painting the inside first, gbuilding the turret at the same time, but as a different kit. Next come a coat of primer, followed by the color(s) for the camoflage. Detail painting comes next with the rubber rims of the wheels, the tracks,.. Then add all the pre-painted tools, accessories,.. Then washes and drybrushing. Then final assembly (turret + hull), then weathering.

Indeed, many small parts can be painted before they are actualy glued in place over a painted model (open hatches, tools, tracks, wheels,...). The key is making sure that what you do with those parts will not 'look strange'. For instance, do your weathering once everything is on. Dust on the wheels and none on the turret will look weird! Also, be careful how you glue those little parts on the model: liquid cement will attack some paints (enamels for instance), superglue can 'fog' adjacent areas. PVA (wood) glue is a safer bet, 'cause it can easily be cleaned off, but the tack is obviously lower and manipulating your model can knock things off...

I'm not really answering your question, possibly because I'm doing different things to different models, but I think that if you follow some of the advice above, you'll end up with better results.
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 14, 2003 10:45 AM
Thank you djmodels1999 you were answering my question, that was just the sort of advice I was after. I revisted the instructions and they now make more sense. The hull is in two halves and the instructions show the details being added to each halve seperately, then the turret is built then the tracks then all four peices combined.

so my plan if you could give your opinion is;

1st (All Sections) Add the details that are to be the same colour as the main area of the hull, then prime then paint.

2nd (Bottom Hull) Construct, prime and paint the wheels and any details not the same colour as the main colour. Fix to the hull

3rd (Top Hull) Construct, prime and paint any details not the same colour as the main colour. Fix to the hull

4th (Turret) Construct, prime and paint any details not the same colour as the main colour. Fix to the turret

5th (All Sections) Any washes and dry brushing.

6th Final assembly

7th Weathering

Thanks for the advise on the glue for the little painted parts. I was just going to use the liquid cement, but I have PVA already so I'll use as needed.

Thanks again
Bryan
  • Member since
    January 2003
Posted by shermanfreak on Monday, April 14, 2003 10:49 AM
In a nutshell
build - paint - weather

Stage build the bulk of the kit ie turret, hull, tracks
Paint your base colours then pick out any details
Apply decals
Seal model
Weather to your tastes whether it be washes, dry brushing, pastels or a combination of all.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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