Best Dull Coat?

I've never tried the Krylon in an AB. I suppose it would work like bstrump said if you wanted to specifically target certain areas of a model. The ingredient shouldn’t hurt an airbrush at all.

Hi Hawk! I spray Crystal Clear through my airbrush all the time. Just spray some into the jar and fire away. You don't even need to reduce it.

QUOTE: Originally posted by roosterfish I guess I have to go against popularity of everyone elses vote. I use Krylon Matte Finish 1311 from either an arts & crafts store or Wal-Mart. For a couple of $$ I get 11 ounces and the finish matches the best that Testors DullCote can do. I find the Krylon cans more consistent in quality than Testors.

I just discovered this stuff at a Michael's last week and so far, I've had great results with it. Like some have said, I was having consistancy problems with the Testors Dull Cote cans. Having tried the Krylon Crystal Clear Gloss cans and having good results with them, I decided to give their 1311 Matte Finish a shot. It worked great! I sprayed it right of the can and it went on as evenly as could be.

Have you tried using this in an airbrush? Since I got such good results the first time, I'm almost tempted to just continue using the rattlecan.

Sometimes I use Microscale Micro Flat but mostly Humbrol #49 Matt Clear, because it's dead flat.

QUOTE: Originally posted by st_gorder Can the lacquer be used over acryllic paints? Steve

Yes, if done correctly.
You have to spray several light, mist coats to protect the underlying acrylics.
If you spray a wet coat of lacquer over the acrylic you are asking for trouble.

Mike

Can the lacquer be used over acryllic paints?
Steve

i have used dullcote w/ decent results,
but usually i use Future & Tamiya Flat Base
i think the recipe i read was 10 parts Future to 3 parts Flat base.
being lazy, i use 3 parts Future to 1 part Flat base.
which would be a hair flatter.
:-)

Testors Dullcote all the way here, but that's because I'm an enamel/lacquer kinda guy and intensely dislike acrylics.

I've several other flats to use if I want a slight satin finish, but Dullcote is the only flat which gives me a dead-matte finish every time without fail.


Fade to Black...

one question i have is with all these dull coats your talking about, are they all laquer based? I use tamiya, gunze, and polly scale acrylics. If I spray a laquer based dull coat on top of the acrylics, will it screw up the paint job? I'm thinking of using future floor polish mixed with tamiya flat base for a flat coat. Could you give me some suggestions as to what is a good product to use?

I guess I have to go against popularity of everyone elses vote.

I use Krylon Matte Finish 1311 from either an arts & crafts store or Wal-Mart. For a couple of $$ I get 11 ounces and the finish matches the best that Testors DullCote can do. I find the Krylon cans more consistent in quality than Testors.

I'm with J-Hulk on the Gunze flat.

This stuff kills shine............DEAD!

Karl

Thanks for all the help guys, I'll pick some different things up and try them before I use my MM. Thanks again

Well it's obvious from this thread that not all dull cotes are created equal. Thats good because sometimes I want just slightly different varieties of "flat".

I read about "Delta Ceramcoat" - "Matte interior varnish" (found at craft stores) on this forum some time back. I got some and have been using it. It's water based and can be brushed on or airbrushed. Very nice stuff. Ends up with a nice matte flat finish that still looks clear and still lets all the detail through. Dries in about 5 minutes. Doesn't produce a faded, milky or out of focus look like Tamiya or Testors sometimes does. Then again, the faded flat is sometimes desired.

I haven't used Testors DullCote for over ten years, and even then it was out of the spray can, but I always had consistency problems with it. One can would be dead flat, and the next would be semi-gloss or satiny (yes, I checked the labels to be sure I was using DullCote!). Never any problems with clouding or melting decals, just problems getting the flatness I wanted. I have never tried DullCote through an airbrush, so maybe it's more consistent.

What I use now, however, is Gunze Sangyo's Aqeous Clear Flat. That stuf is dead-as-doornails flaaaaaat every single time I use it, out of a spray can or out of my airbrush. I can't imagine using anything else (although I still want to try Future mixed with a flat base).

If you haven't tried Gunze, you really should give it a shot.

Have to agree. I used Aeromaster Flat (Pollyscale) and then switched over to Pollyscale flat when my supply ran out.

Awesome paint. I have heard and seen that Gunze Flat is good too, although I have never used this brand.

:cheers:

MikeJ

Couldn't agree more. I used Testors Dull Cote for ages, but have now switched to Polly Scale.

Darren

I used Testors Dull Cote for years with only a couple of problems, but now I have switched to Polly Scale clear flat acrylic. It's the best available IMHO.

Regards, Rick

I'll agree with that, Testors Dull Coat is definately dead flat. I just put in on in very light "misting" coats, almost spraying around and not on the model.

I havent got a bad finish yet with the same stuff.

I use the regular Testors Dull-Cote and haven't had any problems with it; gives a nice clean finish.