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Testor's dullcote, anyone?

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Testor's dullcote, anyone?
Posted by ponch on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 6:58 PM
Hi all,
I recently finished a model and I gave it a final coat of testor's dullcote 1260, to get rid of the shinny 'Future finish'. Then I removed the masking on the clear parts, and cleaned them with some IPA to get rid of the sticky residue. When I did so, some of the IPA got to the body of the model and reacted with the dullcote, creating a white opaque film. Has anybody seen this before? I'm suprised alcohol reacted with the dullcote as it is supposed to be solvent based, not acrylic!!
Anyway, if anybody has had to deal with this before and knows how to recover from this, please let me know.
Thanks in advance

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:09 PM
All I know is that future goes white when introduced to Alcohol as well. Also, you can use dullcote over future? I thought that Dullcote tore through acrylics and crazed the underlying paints!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:11 PM
As an answer, whenever my future goes white, I either re-paint over that spot, or I brush some more future on top! That usually does it, so I bet the same thing'll happen if dullcote is put on top of dullcote!
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  • From: East Bethel, MN
Posted by midnightprowler on Thursday, May 22, 2003 4:48 AM
That should work.
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  • From: Oak Harbor, WA
Posted by Kolja94 on Thursday, May 22, 2003 6:15 PM
I never used to have a problem using the "old" aerosol dull cote over Future - always made sure to give the Future 48 hours to set and misted the dull cote on in light coats, gradually building it up.

Now however, I use the acrylic dull coat from Testors Acryl line, applied with an airbrush. There was something about the aroma of the enamel (or laquer, whichever) baesd dullcote that struck me as somewhat unhealthy to have hanging about in the air....

Karl

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  • From: East Bethel, MN
Posted by midnightprowler on Friday, May 23, 2003 4:30 AM
Karl, you should really be using a cartridge respirator for spraying, the fumes are bad for you. You should use one when spraying ANY type of paint. You can get one at a auto parts store.
Lee

Hi, I am Lee, I am a plastiholic.

Co. A, 682 Engineers, Ltchfield, MN, 1980-1986

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 1 Corinthians 15:51-54

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  • From: Oak Harbor, WA
Posted by Kolja94 on Friday, May 23, 2003 12:57 PM
next they'll tell me the laquer thinner i had to use to scrub the paint splattered model-room floor at my old (recently vacated) house is bad for me! sheeeesh!!!!

Just kidding - in all seriousness, I was actually referring to the way the fumes just hung in the air well AFTER spraying and seemed to permeate the entire house for hours even with all the ventilation and open windows I could muster.... not that it was incapacitating, but I could still smell them and it don't smell good!!! As I'm not so keen on wearing a respirator while watching baseball on my sofa, I now prefer the acryl product which seems to have less potent (and less stubborn) fumes....

It was the way they hung around that struck me as unhealthy - unless you and whoever else happens to be in the house (roommates, family, guests) is going to wear respirators for the rest of the day....

Karl

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  • From: East Bethel, MN
Posted by midnightprowler on Friday, May 23, 2003 4:47 PM
Sorry, guess I misunderstood you. What I would do for that is simpley have a fan running where you are sitting to keep the fresh air flowing.
Lee

Hi, I am Lee, I am a plastiholic.

Co. A, 682 Engineers, Ltchfield, MN, 1980-1986

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 1 Corinthians 15:51-54

Ask me about Speedway Decals

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  • From: Oak Harbor, WA
Posted by Kolja94 on Saturday, May 24, 2003 2:04 PM
I think my new house will be a better set up, as it includes a small garage... with room for a painting set up. It's got an window that opens, and its on the opposite end as the garage door so I SUSPECT that with both of them open there will be some good airflow to help clear the air!

Karl

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  • From: Pominville, NY
Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Sunday, May 25, 2003 1:49 AM
As an answer to the question of using Dullcote (or any lacquer) over Future; Future is an acrylic floor polish, not an acrylic hobby paint.

I'm no chemist, but I've found that Future has properties totally unlike any acrylic hobby paint I've come across, including a resistance to the usual consequences of putting "hot over cold" when painting a model. Putting hot (lacquer) over cold (acrylic) usually yields less than desirable results. (read: DISASTER! LOL)

For some reason, Future is not adversely affected by an overcoat of lacquer. Why? I dunno, and I don't care. I'm just glad that 'tis the case!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 25, 2003 4:34 PM
just use gunze sangyo dullcoat
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:52 PM
I've had mixed results using Testor's dullcoat; it seems to perform very differently depending upon what it's being applied over. I've started using Gunze Sangyo flat clear through the airbrush, and it's given me much better and more consistent results. Plus, it's easier to use and easier to correct mistakes, and it doesn't have any nasty fumes. I've applied it over enamels and laquers - even sealed metalizers - without any problems at all.
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Posted by ponch on Monday, May 26, 2003 3:38 PM
Thanks everybody for the tips. By the way, I tried TenchiMuyo81's suggestion to just brush some more dullcote on top of the white film, and it worked like a charm! No more nasty white stuff.

 

 

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