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Posted by modelmaker66 on Monday, February 15, 2016 5:16 PM

heating a piece of it and stretching it makes great antennas.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 1, 2003 12:17 PM
I will have to check into that , thanks very much.

Mark
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Posted by upnorth on Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:04 PM
Yeah, markiii, there's a lot more to know about plastics than I ever thought.

The book is one that I picked up when I was in college about 7 or 8 years ago and it served me well in artwork and even better in modeling, in many ways it has changed my entire aproach to how I do things in this hobby.

The book is entitled: "Health Hazards for Artists" mine is the third edition and I understand there has been a fourth edition out for a couple of years.

Author: Michael McCann Ph.D., C.I.H.

Publisher: Lyons & Burford

ISBN: 0-941130-06-1

This is one of those books I think every modeler should have, I'd call it the "Bible" of art material safety.

There are increadibly enlightening sections on working with various plastics (what I learned about casting resin and RTV materials has kept me from taking up that activity), metal casting work, adhesives and paints.

If you like to say "ignorance is bliss" yes it is, after you read this book, you'll realize that you'll find a similar bliss in the grave. After reading that book, and reading in FSM what some modelers use to get there projects done, I'm surprized more of us in the hobby haven't put ourselves "six feet under"

Its scary, but we must face up to the fact that our hobby includes working with toxins and exercise a level of maturity and responsiblity that reflects that.

Happy (and safe) modeling
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:34 PM
Hey upnorth, that's pretty good information. Keep it up !

Mark
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Posted by upnorth on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:30 PM
This is for Bayonet Recon:

I'm not a plastics expert by any means, but if what I've read about the transition of plastics from raw material, to finished product (polymerization) I'd have to to say melting it down and remolding it is probably a long shot at best.

The way I understand it, polymerization fundamentaly changes the chemistry of the raw material from an unstable element to a stable finished product.

As for the fumes, yes they are a concern, I'd say research your plastic type. Some plastics incorporate carcinogenic compounds in their chemical makeup, and while they may not be a concern in a solid cured piece of finished plastic, remelting it could release residual amounts of such compounds into the air.

I have a safety manual for artists at home that has an excelent section on working with plastics, I'll post its title and other information here tomorrow.
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Posted by Hoser on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:55 AM
I have read tips in FSM and Scale Auto you can cut sprue into small pieces, put them in a bottle and cover with liquid cement. The sprue will melt and you can adjust the consistency with the amount of cement you use. The tips centered on using this for putty to fill seams, holes, etc. I suppose you could try casting with it, but in my experience it takes forever for it to dry.
"Trust no one; even those people you know and trust." - Jack S. Margolis
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by Bayonet Recon

I honestly never gave much thought to using sprue. It seemed like such a waste having all of that extra plastic and not doing anything with it besides throwing it away. Now I know better.

The one thing I'm curious about, is it possible or practical to melt it down into liquid form and pour into a mold? Or is it not considered re-useable in such a manner. Or is this considered too dangerous due to toxic fumes, etc.?

That is a good question, but I don't know the answer. Maybe someone can shed some light on this?
I did come up with a good use of sprue. I took two pieces of stretched sprue, one thicker, one thinner, glued the two ends together and then held the glued end between my fingers and turning the loose end causing the thinner piece to wrap around the thicker piece, after getting to the end I put liquid cement on it to fix it. Now I had a oxygen hose. Change the size of the diameter and you can use it for different scales.

Mark
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:35 PM
I honestly never gave much thought to using sprue. It seemed like such a waste having all of that extra plastic and not doing anything with it besides throwing it away. Now I know better.

The one thing I'm curious about, is it possible or practical to melt it down into liquid form and pour into a mold? Or is it not considered re-useable in such a manner. Or is this considered too dangerous due to toxic fumes, etc.?
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Posted by jcarlberg on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:04 AM
If you can make a simple form, you can prepare a piece of the right size sprue and heat it and bend it to shape. For some small parts, you can slice it into discs for some uses like switches, dials or wheel-like controls. It is a versatile raw material, and best thing about it is the price.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:18 AM
Thanks for answering James, but I knew that one already. I'm looking for other techniques to fashion small detail parts, raised detail or other parts.

Thanks,
Mark
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Posted by James Mark on Monday, January 27, 2003 11:22 PM
I haven't messed around to much with sprue, but I have heard of people melting down a large batch from old kts and reusing it...I don't have any knowledge of how they do this, so maybe someone else will~

The only thing I do use sprue for extensively is rigging. I always use sprue to detail antenna wires on WWII aircraft...

I use a candle and roll a piece of unsued sprue over the candle...when the heated section turns glossy you know you're starting to melt...don't let it CATCH FIRE....IT STINKS!!! when the sprue is melting remove from heat and pull it apart fairly quickly....Depending on the temperuture you can vary the gauge (to scale of course) The hotter the sprue the thinner the stretched sprue....For the thinnest rigging I actually melt the piece until it breaks apart and then quickly touch the broken ends together and puil apart...THis gets you some REALLY thing stuff!

Just use super glue to attach it and don't worry if it sags....light a match, blow it out and before it cools to much, run the match under the line and it will magically get taught (note...don't actually touch the match to the line...just get as close as you need for it to tighten....this may take a few tries!)

For me it's a great method and I have made beautiful rigging every time!

Good luck!

james
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Posted by upnorth on Sunday, January 26, 2003 2:28 PM
It really depends on the shape your'e trying to acheive.

Several years ago I scratchbuilt a refueling probe for a 1/48 F/A-18 Hornet and used some sprue of about the right scale diameter to accomplish it. It was a fairly straight forward thing. I heated the sprue just enough to acheive the slight bend at the intake end of the probe, I did the bending over a small candle. I fashioned the details of the tip of the probe with needle files.

You may be able to bypass any serious shaping work completely, just by being aware of the general shape of what you are trying to achieve. Sprue racks have many angles on them as the mold channels aren't always at right angles to each other. The shape you want may be right in front of your eyes, you just need to cut if from the rack with your sprue nippers and dress it up a bit with files, knives and other basic tools.

Hope that helps
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Sprue ?
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 26, 2003 12:09 PM
Anyone have any good techniques for working with sprue to make different shapes ? Heating, stretching, forming, etc...

Mark
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