HELP! Brush Painting Using (gross emanuel paint)

Gloss enamel paints are impossible to paint well on a flat surface. I've tried and failed. Which is why I switched to acrylics.

 

try using a retarder, helps the paint dry slower, thus leveling out brush marks. hope this helps

ok thanks for your help, but may i know what is a retarder n where can i get it...

Try your local model shop or Bookstore that carries art supplies. remembetr to ask for Enamel Retarder.because i made the mistake and got lacquer retarder.

You might also try just thinning the paint a little. Thinner paint will flow smoother and level quicker, giving it more of a chance to blend those brush marks in. Good luck!

but i think overall no mater what to do u still cant have a clear finishes. the best is to use an airbrush to spray over it. sigh , handbrushing gross paint is still a problem...

Yes that would be an easy, but Expensive solution to your problem lizen (that's if you don't own an airbrush) if you do, then a little time and effort would do you good. my first try on an airbrush came with the Tamiya Basic Spray Brush and Compressor. for just about $100 you can have a good begginer set(airbrush+compressor in one). i still use it up till now for general coverage of my builds! Good luck!

so cheap? i live in singapore , most of the airbrush are around 200++ to 300++ , i do not see any airbrush with juz 100 over dollars. haa

lizhen wrote:

so cheap? i live in singapore , most of the airbrush are around 200++ to 300++ , i do not see any airbrush with juz 100 over dollars. haa

Check online. There are many companies willing to ship overseas for a little bit more. I bought a Crescendo for $70 from www.dixieart.com Add on shipping to go over seas, and you would still be in a cheaper price range than what you would have to pay in Singapore! Good luck!

One thing I've found that helps with brush painting along with the thinning is using the softest bristle brush that I can find. I think it helps because it lays the paint down but the bristles do not force the paint to go anywhere. I believe that allows the paint to be distributed more evenly to begin with. The softness I'm referring to is like makeup brushes for women, the big puffy ones how soft they are, find some brushes like that whatever type of hair it is I'm not sure. No plastic bristles though. Slower drying time will help too as mentioned above.

 

Tracy

 

gloss paints should be brushed on in many thin coats. BTW, who is this "Gross Emanuel" character? Some person with bad personal hygiene?

Don't say the because you can't do it that it can't be done. (And understand that I can't really brush paint gloss enamels worth a darn).  I had a very good friend who could produce the most amazing finishes with gloss enamels (including fingernail polish) and a brush.  His method was to know how to properly thin the paint for the best flow behind the brush, the proper brush, the proper technique (always brush in the same direction, applying 2 to 3 coats, letting each dry and then sanding between each coat).  Plus experience, practice (lots of practice) and patience (lots and lots of patience).

He once spent 2 1/2 hrs (average) an night for two solid weeks applying a gloss purple (fingernail polish) finish on an AMT 32 Ford street rod and it was absolutley pristine when it was done.  My problem was I never had the patience to either learn how to do it correctly or spend the amount of time he took on his paint jobs.  It was quicker and easier to shoot gloss out of a rattle can or apply a coat of flat paint and then shoot a coat of clear gloss out of a rattle can over it.  Only problem was that would often cover any fine details, plus there was always the spectre of runs in the finish.  And even if you are going to use an airbrush, if you want a very, very nice finish, you need to apply several coats, sanding between coats with very fine sandpaper (with 1 to 1 painting it's called hand rubbing).  So again we're talking about practice and patience.

Tankmaster7 wrote:

gloss paints should be brushed on in many thin coats. BTW, who is this "Gross Emanuel" character? Some person with bad personal hygiene?

 

I think it's another Engrish thing. He is from Asia.....

Gloss Enamel  =  Gross Emanuel

Yep ezzle is right i picked up a badger kit for $60us and its free shipping the only thing i use brushes for are small items like insterment panels and other small things the air brush saved my life LOL and MontanaCowboy you kill me man cant say are language is much better

i no! Remembur wen me an thiz othr guy (waz it U?) got in2 a badd spleing cantest?

 

I speak English, not Slang.

lizhen wrote:

so cheap? i live in singapore , most of the airbrush are around 200++ to 300++ , i do not see any airbrush with juz 100 over dollars. haa

Try M WORKSHOP
91 Bencoolen St
Sunshine Plaza #01-86
Singapore 189652
Tel : +65 - 63341180
Map
They sell airbrush for SGD$150
http://www.themworkshop.com/mshop/hobbymate/airbrush/airbrush.html
Hope this help.

I have brushed gloss enamel for years, mostly on my car model interiors because I sprayed the exteriors.

A few tricks I learned along the way -
I use a natural bristle (not nylon or poly), soft, fine hair brush.
I slightly thin the paint (mostly Testors) with a little linseed oil. That retards the drying time where thinning with paint thinner (mineral spirits) doesn't.
If I have to apply another coat, I wet sand with 1200 grit or finer.
If the final coat isn't perfectly smooth, but not bad enough to warrant another coat, I then use either rottenstone or Crest toothpaste to give it a final color polish/sanding. I have at times used an automotive "cleaner-wax" applied with cotton swabs (Q-tips) with good results.

A helpful tip - to prevent excess dust build-up settling into the slow drying paint, I put the items in a small plastic box with a lid (Tupperware or Rubbermaid) for a couple of days until dry.

Another place to look for deals on AB's & compressors besides Dixie Art - AirBrush-Depot, they have decent kit prices also.

Sorry for using the names of brands, but that's what I use.