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    November 2005
pastel chalk? regular chalk
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 29, 2003 6:50 PM
Hi all,
I have read a few of those weathering technique discussion topics and I would like to try it myself. But I'm a bit confused with what chalk to use... is pastel chalk the kind that kids use to draw stuff on drawing paper? is that kind a bit sticky? what about the kind that teachers use to write onto blackboard? that is regular chalk?

Then for the purpose of weathering (mixing the chalk power with water/other medium), which kind of chalk should I use? someone also warned not to use oil pastels. Is that kind used by kids on drawing paper oil pastel? If the kind teachers use is what I need, where do you think I can find that kind of chalk? office depot etc.?

Thanks
  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Foothills of Colorado
Posted by Hoser on Friday, August 29, 2003 7:53 PM
Boarder,

Pastel chalk is just like regular chalk but it comes in shades you can actually use for weathering. Any good hobby or arts / crafts store can supply you with a 'starter kit' that has a good selection of shades. Welcome and good luck!
"Trust no one; even those people you know and trust." - Jack S. Margolis
  • Member since
    January 2003
Posted by shermanfreak on Friday, August 29, 2003 8:38 PM
First things first boarder ..... welcome to FSM.

As Hoser has already said, what you are looing for is an artist's chalk. Michaels or any other of the large arts & crafts stores will carry these. You can buy them in singles or in packages. The first one I bought was the package of earth tones which will have 8 or more different colours ranging from black through brown and into greens and reds, all of which come in handy as your collection grows.

As far as usage goes, first I grind the pastels down to a dust using a piece of course sandpaper. I then apply it straight to the model using a small stencil brush. I scrub it into nooks and crannies and then dust the entire model. This is the last stage of weathering for me.

Whoever told you not to use the wax pastels was right on the money. Really just a glorified crayon.

Be sure you buy pastel chalks
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 30, 2003 1:52 AM
Thanks a lot for the tips Hoser and Shermanfreak. I'll go get some pastel chalk then.
One more question. Do you guys seal your models after weathering? if you brush the powder on dry, wouldn't it get blown away by the airbrush?
Thanks again all.
  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Foothills of Colorado
Posted by Hoser on Saturday, August 30, 2003 12:14 PM
When I seal chalk weathering, I mix the clear a bit thinner than normal and use low air pressure through the airbrush (about 10 - 12 psi) and lightly dust on a couple of coats. But if your model will end up in a display case, you could skip this.


"Trust no one; even those people you know and trust." - Jack S. Margolis
  • Member since
    January 2003
Posted by shermanfreak on Saturday, August 30, 2003 2:32 PM
I just leave mine as is. Once the final dusting of pastels is done it becomes "hands off". If I need to handle the model after that for some reason I always use vinyl gloves so as not to leave fingerprints.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Green Bay, WI USA
Posted by echolmberg on Thursday, September 4, 2003 12:40 PM
Hi Boarder!

I've used sealers on a couple of my models (glosscoat, flats, etc) and it worked out just fine. You don't need to worry too much about the chalk blowing off. Yeah some of it might but it won't blow it off entirely. If you blend the chalk into the model well enough you'll pretty much grind some of the chalk into the finish. In other words, it's not going to be as if you're blowing powdered sugar off a counter top. Does this make sense? One final word, when you apply a clear topcoat it will darken the pastel chalk a little bit but I don't think that's a bad thing at all. Usually the overcoat changes the hue of the entire model so everything pretty much stays in proportion color-wise. Try it on a scrap piece of plastic. Have fun!!!!

Eric

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