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When applied why does there appear to be a difference between spray "rattle can," and brushed on paint?

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  • Member since
    December 2007
  • From: Southern NJ
When applied why does there appear to be a difference between spray "rattle can," and brushed on paint?
Posted by Jeordicat on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 3:15 PM
I use Tamiya's rattle cans to spray, and then try to touch up (brush on) with the same color using Tamiya's bottled acrylic paint and they look totally different.  I don't get it!
  • Member since
    May 2005
  • From: Left forever
Posted by Bgrigg on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 5:17 PM

Well, the simple answer is because one is sprayed and one is brushed. You'll see a difference between sprayed and brushed acrylics. 

The big answer is that the rattle can isn't acrylic and therefore will never look the same as an acrylic paint.

So long folks!

  • Member since
    December 2007
  • From: Southern NJ
Posted by Jeordicat on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 9:46 PM

Bgrigg,

Thanks for responding.  Now the next question is, "How do I resolve this?"  I'm just getting back into "modelling" after an almost 30 year absence.  I'm currently working on 3 builds, but my 1/35 Academy M2 is just about 75% complete, and I'm trying to clean up what I've done so far.

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 9:49 PM
Switch to Testor's Model Master enamels... They match pretty well between bottles and rattle-cans..

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  • From: Southern NJ
Posted by Jeordicat on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:11 PM
I'm going to make that transition to MM paints.  I unfortunately have a butt load of Tamiya Acrylics I need to use up.  With my jumping back into building, I went with a name that I could trust.  Now I'm finding that Tamiya is a bear to deal with when it comes to brushing on.  Lessons learned at this point, but I will drive on with my mission.
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  • From: Left forever
Posted by Bgrigg on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:29 PM
Yeah, sorry there really isn't a way to resolve it. I personally like the Tamiya acrylics, but then I use an airbrush and rarely use rattle cans. Wish I was closer so I could buy up your stock!

So long folks!

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    December 2007
  • From: Southern NJ
Posted by Jeordicat on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:43 PM
LOL!  Thanks for the offer to buy what I have on hand, but I'm gonna tough it out.  If anyting, I'll learn from this and hopefully become a better builder.  I'm not quite ready to move on to an airbrush.  That is a different beast altogether, and I'm working on getting the basics right.
cml
  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Brisbane, Australia
Posted by cml on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 11:01 PM

I'm just throwing this out there...but is it possible to just spray some into a bottle (enough until it pools) and then just brush paint that on?

Thought i'd throw it out there.

cml

Chris

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Where the coyote howl, NH
Posted by djrost_2000 on Thursday, August 7, 2008 8:43 AM

I once read that if you want to touch up an airbrushed or sprayed surface, just lightly drybrushing will apply a  very thin layer of paint which might conform better on the sprayed surface.  I would think you'd have to use the same color and type of paint (acrylic/enamel) and drybrushing might leave a thinner and more blended layer of paint for touch up.

Dave 

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  • From: Peoples Socialist Democratic Republic of Illinois
Posted by Triarius on Thursday, August 7, 2008 11:24 AM

The reason they look different is that they have to be formulated differently for thier method of application. Even if you use a bottled paint, the airbrushed result will look at least slightly different from the hand-brushed result, simply because the method of application was different. The situation varies with the degree of gloss, too. Sometimes, gloss paints are easier to touch up than flats—but that varies.

There are two techniques that can be used to blend in areas that have been touched up with a brush, provided that the paint systems are the same (acrylic on acrylic, enamel on enamel). One is to apply the brushed paint either in a thinned state, or apply thinner to the tack free surface. This works best with gloss paints.

The other is to polish the painted surface with very fine grit sandpaper (>1000 grit). Then coat with a clear gloss, followed by a clear flat if the final finish is to be flat.

And yes you are ready for an airbrush! Rattle cans are inefficient, wasteful, expensive, and "environmentally unfriendly." The only reason to use them on a model is a slight increase in speed—at the expense of everything else. A good airbrush is not very expensive, even including the compressor and tank. (My entire rig cost me $100, about half for a T&C Omni 4000, the rest for the compressor. It pays to shop around!) How many rattle cans is that? How long will the rattle cans last? It is entirely possible that a grandchild will be using my rig when I've been compost for fifty years.

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, August 7, 2008 1:44 PM

I use rattle-cans almost exclusively... Especially doing WW2 U.S. armor.  For Single or two-color camo, my main focus, an airbrush is, for me, time-consuming with mixing and cleaning thrown in... Clean-up time is zero. One $6 can of MM is good for half a dozen 1/35th scale tanks, a dozen 1/48th USAAF birds, and hundreds of 1/35th scale O.D.base-coated uniforms.   

Regarding the "environment"? Let's leave it at the fact that I don't even use a spray-booth... I hold the model over a trash can in the hallway, shoot it, and toss the empties in the dumpster, or better yet, the burn barrel... I like the ka-booms...  I live in a college town and it p*sses off Greenies, and I enjoy doing that...Evil [}:)]

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