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  • Member since
    April 2008
  • From: SE Alabama
Iwata Power Jet Pro Compessor
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:11 PM

It took me fifteen minutes to hit the send button on my purchase for the Iwata Power Jet Pro Compressor. I have been reviewing compressors for the last two weeks and this appears to be the best I can afford without my wife killing me. I also purchased the Paasch Talon gravity feed airbrush set to complement my old VL brush.

Anyone out there use this model and have any tips or tricks on this model. I would appreciate any comments or advice if you use this model. I bought this from Chicago Aibrush. They seemed to have the best price. AIrbrush depot wanted quite a bit more for the same model.

Anyway thanks in advance.

Charlie

  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Indiana
Posted by hkshooter on Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:12 PM

Chuck, you bought a lot of air compressor there, my man. You made it sound like you had to settle for less than you wanted. You didn't go wrong and will be very happy with the unit, methinks. I've not used it but I do use a Smart Jet that I attached to an airtank and I love it. You have the bennefit of an extra, regulated outlet. Something I wish I had.

I know nothing of the Talon AB.

  • Member since
    April 2008
  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:57 PM

Thanks hkshooter. I did not settle for less than I wanted, I like most...just hate spending money, but when I do I buy something I try to buy a little more quality than I actually need. I was really hoping to find an oil-based system, but they were all in the 600 plus range. When I realized I did not want to pay that premimum I decided to find a good oil-less compressor and kept coming back to the Iwata compressors. I liked what I read about the Smart Jet but could not find a model that had the tank. Reading about the heat oil-less compressors put out and the less life-time they have, I figured I would get one with a tank to hopefully reduce the compressor running constantly and extend the life of the compressor. Hopefully it was a good decision. I will try and post a review of what I think once I get it and have a chance to get comfortable with it.

My old compressor I had for years was an old Testor model which caused me more problems than it was worth, so when I got back into modeling after many years of being out a few months ago I decide to buy a new compressor that offers a little growth.

Thanks again

charlie

  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Windy city, US
Posted by keilau on Monday, September 29, 2008 6:51 AM
 Retired Gunpilot wrote:

I have been reviewing compressors for the last two weeks and this appears to be the best I can afford without my wife killing me. Charlie

Go for it if you can afford it. I don't have the budget for it and can't worry about the second part on spourse. I am very interested in hearing your experience with this compressor.

In your reviewing of compressors, how do you compare the Power Jet Pro to the Sparmax TC-5000.

Someone mentioned that it was essentially the same compressor in a more utility looking package. Chicago Airbrush stopped stocking the Sparmax awhile back. It is more expensive elsewhere now.

I got a Paasche DA-400 compressor and added an airtank myself. It works well for me. But it is a lower end, no thrill model compared to the Power Jet Pro. I was told that all these twin piston, made in Taiwan compressors are products of Sparmax.

http://www.sparmax.com.tw/oil-less.htm

After a few weeks use, it will be great if you can write a short review for us on the forum.

Is the compressor completely free of pulsation? Is it quiet and free of vibration, i.e., will not move when used on a bare floor surface? Is the regulator easy to adjust and read? What is the highest pressure at no flow? What is the highest pressure that the compressor runs steady with the airbrush trigger fully push down (highest flow required by the AB)? Does the auto-on-off work as expected, and at what pressures? What is the duty cycle when you airbrush continuously?

I have an Iwata HP-CS airbrush for less than 6 months and love it. I am very interested in getting either a Badger Renegade or a Paasche Talon for comparison. I don't really need another AB, but the prices are so tempting for these new airburshes from American companies. It would be wonderful if someone can publish an unbiased, 3 way comparison of them.

 

  • Member since
    April 2008
  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Monday, September 29, 2008 5:37 PM

Good questions and I will try after I get the compressor to answer as many of your questions as I can. I agree amny of these compressor are made by the same company and my only hopes is they will have different quality control checks on the ones they put their individual  names on. Otherwise it would not benefit at all to buy one over the other other than the packaging and looks.

Charlie

  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Indiana
Posted by hkshooter on Monday, September 29, 2008 7:27 PM

A little story about Iwata....

When I recieved my Smart Jet I only used it a couple of times before I decided to add a tank to it. I poked around ebay, found a suitable tank and went to work. After a trip to the hardware store and an hour or so I had what I wanted. However, in the process I managed to breakBlack Eye [B)] the air pressure gauge. Broke it clean off. Silly me. The next buisness day, Monday, I called Iwata in Oregon. Talked to a young sounding guy, told him what I was doing and that I broke the part and would like to purchase a new one. He sent me a new one for nothing, just for being honest. And maybe he felt sorry for such an idiot, who knows. But I got it for nothing and I got it in two days. I'm in Indiana and things on the left coast usually take a week. Above and beyond customer service if I've ever seen it.

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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, October 1, 2008 4:20 PM
 Retired Gunpilot wrote:

Thanks hkshooter. I did not settle for less than I wanted, I like most...just hate spending money, but when I do I buy something I try to buy a little more quality than I actually need. I was really hoping to find an oil-based system, but they were all in the 600 plus range. When I realized I did not want to pay that premimum I decided to find a good oil-less compressor and kept coming back to the Iwata compressors. I liked what I read about the Smart Jet but could not find a model that had the tank. Reading about the heat oil-less compressors put out and the less life-time they have, I figured I would get one with a tank to hopefully reduce the compressor running constantly and extend the life of the compressor. Hopefully it was a good decision. I will try and post a review of what I think once I get it and have a chance to get comfortable with it.

My old compressor I had for years was an old Testor model which caused me more problems than it was worth, so when I got back into modeling after many years of being out a few months ago I decide to buy a new compressor that offers a little growth.

Thanks again

charlie

Charlie, 

If you can get a fan that blows onto the motor it will help keep it cool as heat is the destroyer of compressors. 

I put this 120v fan on my Badger Million Air for that very reason and wired it so that it runs the entire time the compressor is plugged in, not just on. 

Ken Schlotfeldt at Badger thought it was a cool idea. Wink [;)]

 

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
  • Member since
    April 2008
  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Sunday, October 5, 2008 12:42 PM

Well, my Iwata Power Jet Air Compressor showed up Friday and I was unable to test it out until today. I decided to bring another desk into my room just for spraying to separate my building area from my spraying area.

First thoughts, and I am not a professional at all on compressors, is I am very impressed. The instruction for this model are a basically two pages but adequate for anyone to understand. The instructions guide you through setting it up and testing it.

My system arrived damaged. It looks as if it was dropped inside the shipping box because the right rear quick-disconnect and the outside frame where bent a little. I was able by hand to straighten it and it is still a little off but I doubt I will return it for this small amount of damage. I used plumbers tape on all connections and found that using either of the two air hose connections it did not last the five minutes between auto restart to re-pressurize the 2 liter tank.  I did find that if you disconnected the hose(s) from their quick disconnect points that the tank held the pressure without leaking. I tested it for thirty minutes and the compressor still never kicked on. That tells me that there must be a minute leak at the quick-disconnect point which is not uncommon.

Pressure regulation: I found that in order to spray at a constant pressure of my choosing I had to set the pressure regulator at 3 to 4 pounds more than what I wanted it to be, so if I wanted to spray at 20 PSI, I would set the regulator for 23 and as soon as I start spraying it dropped to 20 PSI and held that even when the compressor kicked on. It would only go back to the 23 PSI when I was not spraying.

Pulsating: I found no pulsating in the paint flow at the three pressures I tested, 10, 25, and 40 PSI. Even when the compressor kicked on I saw or felt no pulsation in the spray.

Motor running: The motor will normally run soon after you start spraying and run until you stop spraying. The tank pressurizes in normally less than 15 seconds so it is a strong motor that, in my opinion will last a long time and unless you are constantly spraying should never get that hot unless you are spraying one of those 1/72 submarine hulls.  I sprayed some test stuff for about ten minutes emptying two once-ounce paint jars. I stuck my hand inside the outside case to feel the motor and it was a little warm at best. Actually I would stay just a little over room temperature.

The kit includes two hoses which I like and three convertor attachments, one for Paasche, badger and Aztec brushes. The hoses I assume are designed for Iwata brushes. Being I use only Passche I will need to order one more Paasche connector so I can have two brushes hooked up at the same time.

Anyway, hope this unscientific review helps. I am happy I made the choice and spent a little more for a compressor.  The tank really takes the stress of the compressor when you take more than a 15 second break on spraying.

Last point, noise level is really low and as you can see in my images it sits on a tile floor. It does not move when running. I think any of you wanting a compressor that is quiet and does not vibrate around on the floor, stays cool and holds pressure when spraying, will like this compressor. I use to have a old Testor's model that would constantly walk across the floor. This setup weighs about 26 pounds which helps keep it steady.

Charlie

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