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Air pressure question for Badger 150 users.

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Air pressure question for Badger 150 users.
Posted by eaglecentral on Monday, October 27, 2008 2:51 PM

What working pressure do you use for a Badger 150?  I typically use Testors enamel thinned 50% with Testors Airbrushing Thinner.  The instruction book says to regulate pressure between 15-50 psi and that normal working pressure is 30 psi.  My Badger is a 150-1L, which means it has the medium needle and medium nozzle.

I find I have to run 30 psi.  If I go much below 30 psi, I don't get any paint flow, but I do get bubbles coming up in the paint cup (I thought the bubbles were caused by a worn head washer, so I replace the washer but it didn't make any difference).   When I boost the pressure up past 28 psi, the bubbles go away and the airbrush works just fine, giving me a very nice tight pattern.  The problem is that this high pressure moves a lot of paint and gives me a lot of overspray.

Is this the experience you have?

I suspect that this working pressure is peculiar to the 150-1L.  Those of you who use the Badger 150 with the XF nozzle and needle, what pressure do you use and and do you get much overspray?

Tom S.

 

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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, October 27, 2008 6:07 PM
When I use the XF needle and nozzle I turn my pressure down to 12-15 psi and thin the paint down pretty good,not sure but probably more then 50-50,I found that I get no overspray.A couple of things my compressor has a holding tank so the pressure evens out,but you have to turn down the pressure to avoid the overspray,experiment with the paint with thinner mixtures 40-60 or even 30-70 on cardboard,I am not an expert,hope this helps some.

  • Member since
    November 2003
Posted by ScrubbyMonkey on Monday, October 27, 2008 7:29 PM

Tom,

 While I don't have a a Badger 150 (I run an Eclipse SBS) I have had a similar problem in the past.  You shouldn't have to hike your pressure up that high to actually get flow, and the problem is most likely a tip clog that is feeding air back into the color cup, or the interface between the needle and the tip is damaged somehow.  

 When the end of the tip cracked on my SBS (making the needle fit incorrectly) I would get the same problem.  If the airbrush is brand new, this might be the problem.  Check the needle and tip for correct fit, and if the tip looks cracked or stretched out at all, then it will need to be replaced.  Try giving it a good strip down cleaning as well, and that may help.

 In my experience, when paint is properly thinned, your working pressure should range from around 15-20 psi, with 25 being the max.  Obviously, if you are spraying something extremely thick, then pressure will have to be increased. 

Hope that helps!


Shaun

  • Member since
    February 2016
Posted by eaglecentral on Monday, October 27, 2008 10:43 PM

anthony and shaun,

The problem appears to be in the nozzle.  It doesn't appear to be cracked, and I know it isn't plugged, but I think that somehow it is stretched or damaged inside.

I have a Badger 100, but didn't realize that the only difference between the 100 and the 150 is that the 100 is gravity feed while the 150 is suction feed.  I checked the instructions and parts list on both and found that the nozzles and needles are both 1L's, the same part numbers, and are interchangeable.

I put the 100 nozzle on the 150 and it works nicely at 15 psi.  When I switch the nozzle back, I need 30 psi to make it spray.  Shaun, your comments led me to concentrate on the nozzle as being the guilty party.  Anthony, your experience with the 150 convinced me that it had to work a a lower pressure tnan 30 psi.

Thanks for your help.

Tom S.

 

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