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is primer important?
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 24, 2003 7:21 AM
hi, guys hope you can help me on this. I'm still a beginner and for a start i'm painting 1/35 wwII fiugres. I'm using Mr. color lacquer base paint or Hobby water base paint. my question is do i still have to prime all the time before I paint or its ok to go straight ahead painting? well this also apply when I start painting armored vehicle also 1/35 scale. Im from the philippines any alternative brands (hobby paints) which is more cheaper? I look around art supply stores and can i use oil paints, i think its more cheaper here? tnx guys
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Posted by styrene on Monday, November 24, 2003 10:41 AM
You can certainly paint without priming, and everything should work OK. I like to "prime" all my models because 1) It shows any flaws that needs to be corrected prior to the base coat going on; 2) It gives the topcoat a little more "tooth" to bite into; and 3) Most importantly for me, the "prime" coat is the first thing that is used in the weathering process! I shoot the kit flat black all over, and then put on an uneven topcoat, so that it appears a little "mottled". Once washing and drybrushing are complete, the model has a very fades appearance.
Any of the enamels or acrylics (Testor's, Tamiya, Gunze, Humbrol, etc.) can be used as primers with successful results.
Gip Winecoff

1882: "God is dead"--F. Nietzsche

1900: "Nietzsche is dead"--God

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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:14 AM
I agree with styrene. There are certain advantages that priming can bring. Of course, you can do without it. The important thing probably is to practice different painting techniques and see which one suits you most.

Good luck.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:22 AM
thanks, if ever i decided to prime before painting, wat primer can I use? are there different colors of primer or its just transparent? like wat styerene said he used "flat black" so it means its a black primer? how is primer being used in the weathering process? tnx again and pardon me for being persistent I really wanted to learn the techniques.
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Posted by styrene on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:15 PM
Primer can be just about any color, and of course, should be flat. The most common primer colors that I have used or heard about are red (rust color), varying shades of medium grays, and white. If your top color is going to be light, then a light primer is suggested. The opposite may be used for darker colors. The bottles don't actually say "primer" on them, it's just that the first color next to the plastic is considered the prime coat. Prime coats can be acrylic,enamel, or even lacquer (Lacquer has to be sprayed on in several mist coats to keep from etching the platic too severley. You need tooth for the base coat, but you don't need a surface that looks like 20-grit sandpaper.)
I spray my models flat black, then begin to dot-in the base coat with my airbrush instead of spraying on a complete coverage coat. Dottin-in is kinda like spraying small, overlapping polka dots, but doing it so that the black subtly shows through when finished. It takes me an hour or two to put the top coat on a 1/35 AFV. Once completed, I'll mix a little flat white into the base coat, and start dotting-in again, but this time I'll only spray toward the inner portions of panels, hatches, etc., leaving the outer panel lines, and weld surfaces darker. This gives the appearance of faded, sun-bleached surfaces. But the black still show through very subtly. Then on to the wash and dry brush, but that's another time and topic.
Hope this helps you some.
Gip Winecoff

1882: "God is dead"--F. Nietzsche

1900: "Nietzsche is dead"--God

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 4:25 PM
tnx styrene, i'll try to look for a primer and try it. I recently bought a revelle's poster color (water based) can i use it as an alternative for hobby color for painting figures? because this is much cheaper. my original intention is to try these poster colors in building my dio's like houses, bridges etc. can I also mixed it with lacquer base paints? tnx again
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