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  • Member since
    May 2008
  • From: Budd Lake, New Jersey
I can not brush paint.
Posted by BeltFed on Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:01 AM
This post is kind of embarrassing.  I have been modelling of 5 years, and airbrush pretty much everything with ease.  I just can not hand brush!  I have tried practically everything- thinned Tamiya, Polly Scale, Model Master, craft acrylics, even Vallejo with no dice.  My problem is either the paint is too thin from the bottle, or i get gooy, raised ridges with a transparent center.  the paint never seems to "flow like ink from a pen."   I am even using good quality brushes- Tamiya, Windsor and Newton, Leo Cornell.   If anyone has any tips or suggestions, please tell me the secret!
  • Member since
    May 2005
  • From: Left forever
Posted by Bgrigg on Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:11 AM

I find brush painting to be every bit as difficult as air brushing. I use Tamiya exclusively (local availability more so than actual preference, but it does spray beautifully), and find that thinning it for brush painting causes problems. I've always brushed straight out of the bottle.

Tamiya "rolls" up if you try to paint over a recently dried edge, so be patient and allow lots of time between coats.

So long folks!

  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Peoples Socialist Democratic Republic of Illinois
Posted by Triarius on Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:02 AM

Every acrylic paint is a little different, due to use of different solvent-binder systems.

The central problem, especially at this time of year, may be relative humidity. For brush painting of acrylic hobby paints, you want the RH as high as you can get it in the winter, usually between 50 and 60 percent, although you may not be able to reach 50%, depending on local conditions. Acrylics dry fast but cure slowly.

I don't have any problems brushing Polly Scale, but you probably need to put on several coats when using a brush. You need to let it cure at least overnight before a recoat, or force cure.

Thinning, or reducing, works well with Tamiya, Gunze, and many craft acrylics, is a good idea, but the amount of thinning is much less than for airbrushing. For Tamiya, I generally decant a small amount of paint, and in another small container I have some 90% isopropyl alcohol in which I have dissolved a small amount of acrylic retarder. (I use this when I spray Tamiya). I dip the brush lightly in the solvent-retarder before I load it with paint, and periodically thereafter. This technique, like all, requires practice. Also works with Gunze.

You can use the same method, but with water instead of alcohol, with Polly Scale, and you may be able to omit the retarder. I don't routinely use Model Master, and I haven't tried Vallejo yet, but similar methods should work—you will have to do the experimenting yourself! Smile [:)]

Always paint with a wet edge. Never "pet the paint": attempting to paint over an area you just covered. Recoat later.

Always wait until the paint has cured before recoating. 

For area coverage, use enough brush! The biggest that will fit the surface is the best because the paint on the brush will not dry out so rapidly.

Always mix retarder with solvent, never directly with paint!

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

  • Member since
    November 2006
  • From: Tacoma, WA
Posted by CuriousG on Friday, December 26, 2008 12:55 AM
No need to be embarassed Beltfed, it happens to lots of guys. I'm one of them. I'm decent with my Badger, but with a brush it's a different story. It's a pain to have a little spot that needs touch-up, and have to set up the whole airbrush rig just because doing it with a brush is going to leave me with a streaky, blotchy mess! I use Golden-brand acrylic retarder, but was mixing it straight in with the paint - now I know better.

George Ireland

"If you can't learn to do it well, learn to enjoy doing it badly."  - Ashleigh Brilliant

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    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Friday, December 26, 2008 2:45 AM

My own expereince with those paint brands is that they are from mediocre (Polly Scale/Testors) to terrible (Tamiya/Gunze)to handbrush. Mind you all airbrush well, but they are formulated to perform better that way I believe. The best brand of acrylics that I used to handbrush was old Polly-S. One coat coverage and usually dried without leaving brush marks.

If you work in enamels, I HIGHLY recommend Humbrols!!! Stir them thoroughly and you will get superb results when handbrushed. Especially with some good sable brushes. When I have to handbrush, they are my first choice unless they do not make the color. But I almost always get beter results using Enamels handbrushed over Acrylics.

 

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