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  • Member since
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  • From: Michigan
I am having some troubles and need help.
Posted by The Lt. on Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:37 AM

Well my 1st car I shot turned out GREAT (at least I think so). However I am working on a 99 chevy and well I can not get anything to come out corect. I have shot the interor flat tan (testors 1167)...it just turned out like sh!t. I thought that it might be the color so I cleaned it all out and shot the body green metal flake (testors 1530) once again rubbish. I guess that my question is what is the mixture ratio (paint to thinner) to make it come out right. The instructions say that it should be about like whole milk.

Thanks

BTW it it matters I am shooting 1:25 scale...HELP

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Posted by Triarius on Sunday, December 28, 2008 11:29 AM

Mind thy language, pilgrim, or the forum polizei will stomp you.

Airbrushing is 50% science, 50% engineering, and 50% art. Just do the math…

The consistency of 2% milk would be better. Whole milk is a little on the thick side. You also didn't specify type of airbrush (gravity or siphon feed), distance from brush to model surface, or the pressure you are using.

For properly thinned paint, about 10 to 15 psi is right for a gravity fed brush. For a siphon feed, 15 to 20 psi. Drop the pressure to the bottom of the range for fine work. You will generally get better results by dropping the pressure and getting closer, but this is a matter of practice and "feel"—this is where the art comes in. You have to find the right combination of dilution ratio, pressure, and distance. This will vary somewhat from one paint to another, with humidity and temperature, and the way you are holding your mouth when you press the trigger…Mischief [:-,]

PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!

As stated, metallics can be very challenging. This is because their pigments are just plane weird—and I know something about both paints and weirdness, as others can testify… Bottom line is that metallic paint ages much faster than other colors. It can look fine in the bottle, when it's reduced for spraying, but then look awful sprayed on the surface. There is no way to ressurect metallic paint that has gone off. The other thing about metallics is that the pigments are often very sensitive to incompatible solvents. The solvent you use can be compatible with the binder, but play havoc with the metal pigment, and you won't know until it dries and cures.  Mineral spirits is generally compatible with metallic enamels (there are exceptions, but they are rare). It also evaporates more slowly than other solvents, and this is very necessary with metallic paints.

Also, with metallics, it is often best to build up multiple thin coats, at least initially.

PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!

And did I mention: PRACTICE! That's where consistent results come from.Wink [;)]

 

 

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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  • From: Michigan
Posted by The Lt. on Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:57 PM
Sorry about the choice words. I am very frustrated. I am using the kind that attaches to the top of a can. It worked out great for the 1st one that I shot. Now It is "spitting" and just making me mad. It fish eyes as soon as it hits the truck. I think that I am going to take another stab at it.
Dan
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Posted by Wilbur Wright on Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:41 PM

If its spitting it (paint) could be too thick or not enough juice left in the can. try it on a piece of cardboard before you hit the model to learn how to eliminate the fisheye (distance, action, pressure etc.)

I too use cans for propellant. You've got to change cans before the spitting starts, and knowwhen you are about to get into that territory. Its just a matter of experience and being patient. We all have A/B screw ups. 

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Posted by MikeV on Monday, December 29, 2008 9:53 AM
 Triarius wrote:

Airbrushing is 50% science, 50% engineering, and 50% art. Just do the math…

That would be 150% Confused [%-)] Laugh [(-D]

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Peoples Socialist Democratic Republic of Illinois
Posted by Triarius on Monday, December 29, 2008 10:10 AM
 MikeV wrote:
 Triarius wrote:

Airbrushing is 50% science, 50% engineering, and 50% art. Just do the math…

That would be 150% Confused [%-)] Laugh [(-D]

(In his best Lilly Tomlin voice) Correct answer! You get a gold star by your name for today! Now class, what does Mike know?

"The secret to successful airbrushing!"

Ayep. Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by Neptune48 on Monday, December 29, 2008 1:05 PM
 Triarius wrote:
 MikeV wrote:
 Triarius wrote:

Airbrushing is 50% science, 50% engineering, and 50% art. Just do the math…

That would be 150% Confused [%-)] Laugh [(-D]

(In his best Lilly Tomlin voice) Correct answer! You get a gold star by your name for today! Now class, what does Mike know?

"The secret to successful airbrushing!"

Ayep. Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]

It made perfect sense to me, Triarius.  Rather like Yogi Berra: "This game is 90% half mental."  

"You can't have everything--where would you put it?"
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 1:56 PM
 Triarius wrote:
 MikeV wrote:
 Triarius wrote:

Airbrushing is 50% science, 50% engineering, and 50% art. Just do the math…

That would be 150% Confused [%-)] Laugh [(-D]

(In his best Lilly Tomlin voice) Correct answer! You get a gold star by your name for today! Now class, what does Mike know?

"The secret to successful airbrushing!"

Ayep. Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]

Haha! Laugh [(-D]

I thought you would post a quote from Gilda Radner's character on the old Saturday Night Live show and say, "Never mind!" Laugh [(-D]

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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