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  • Member since
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  • From: Adelaide, South Australia
Is this normal?
Posted by somenewguy on Tuesday, January 6, 2009 6:00 AM

I am in the process of decaling my Revell 707 AWACS after having gloss coated it with humbrol GC thinned with spirits as instructed. Whenever I handle the model the surface feels really tacky. Is this normal? I'm worried that I will leave irreversible finger prints if I clutch it too hard or too long. Will Matt or Dull coat be like this as well?

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  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, January 6, 2009 6:26 AM

Here's a couple of questions.

How long did you leave the base coat to dry before glosscoating and how long have you left the gloss coat to dry?

It may be dry, but it can take quite a number of days for it to fully cure.

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Southern California, USA
Posted by ABARNE on Tuesday, January 6, 2009 2:22 PM

Without knowing the particulars, it sounds normal.  Your worry about irresible fingerprints is well founded.  If your model feels tacky, you're better off setting it aside to cure for as long as it takes until it no longer feels that way.

Something to be aware of is dry vs. cured.  A lot of times, you will find that a model will initially feel dry, but if handled much them feels tacky with maybe a fingerprint or two left in the finish.  Basically what is happening is that the surface of the finish has skinned over and seems dry, but the rest of the paint underneath is still wet.  The point here is that even though the paint may seem dry after a short while, it will still probably take quite a while longer to fully cure all the way through it entire thickness. 

Gloss finishes do typically take a lot longer to cure than do flat finishes.  Possibly our residient chemist will chime in with the molecular explanation behind it (hint, hint, Ross), but I know in  my own experience that seems to be the case.  With flat finishes, in a warm, dry climate, I find that they usually cure enough in an hour or two for careful handling with a light touch, whereas gloss finishes are usually at least an overnight affair if not longer.  If your climate is cooler or more humid, expect your cure times to be longer.

If you absolutely have to handle a model that has not fully cured, use a light touch.  Try to cradle it in your hand rather than really clamping with your fingers.  If you can get a set of thin modeling gloves, I find they help as well.    

Andy

 

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, January 6, 2009 6:28 PM
 ABARNE wrote:

Gloss finishes do typically take a lot longer to cure than do flat finishes.  Possibly our residient chemist will chime in with the molecular explanation behind it (hint, hint, Ross), but I know in  my own experience that seems to be the case.  With flat finishes, in a warm, dry climate, I find that they usually cure enough in an hour or two for careful handling with a light touch, whereas gloss finishes are usually at least an overnight affair if not longer.  If your climate is cooler or more humid, expect your cure times to be longer.

Agreed.

It''s interesting to note that some gloss acrylics (eg. Tamiya and Gunze) can take many days, even weeks to fully harden, but their flats are rock hard in about 24 hours. 

 

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