Question about Badger 100 Sidefeed

Don Wheeler wrote:

You can buy a cup from Badger that is already bent and it is a lot handier.  You can see one here   Don

That was actually my first thought as well.  Why do extra work if Badger has done it already?    Unfortunately, the bent-tube cup is designed for their 350 model which has a much more angled inlet compared to the 200 model.  I have a Paasche H which has a color cup with a virtually identical bent tube to that of the Badger 50-483 cup and when I tried the Paasche cup in my Badger 200, I found that it really didn't help the color cup's positioning.  It seemed nearly as awkward to me as did the straight tube cup.      

My modified color cup probably has about half the bend and has the tube rotated to put its free end nearer to the color cup body as compared to Badger's bent tube color cup.  With the more subtle bend, the cup tucks in really close to the airbrush's left side.

Andy  

ABARNE wrote:

After seeing how natural the left side color cup felt, I immediately got the same idea.  However, the one difference between the 100 sidefeed and the 200/150 bottom feed is that the sidefeed port is perpendicular to the airbrush axis whereas the bottom feed ports angle back.  As a result the cup ends up a lot further back and would probably get in the way if positioned to the left side.  For me it's a semi-moot point (unless I got a second color cup) because I bent the siphon tube on mine to allow the cup to sit level and tucked in on the left side of the 200 and naturally the bend on the tube completely fouls up any possible position on the right side.  Andy

You can buy a cup from Badger that is already bent and it is a lot handier.  You can see one

here  

Don

Bgrigg wrote:

Weird! I've only held one in my life and frankly don't know if it was a LH or RH. I presumed RH as the cup was on the left. All the images I have found identify them the same way I did.

I too was expecting it on the left and originally though that Badger screwed up the order.  It wasn't until I held the thing in my had that I saw the logic of it.  Of course it's hard to say what the brush officially is, because there are no readable engravings as to it being RH vs. LH.  One interesting item is that the cover to the manual shows one with the cup on the left side, and one would presume that the manual would more likely show an RH rather than an LH.. 

Bgrigg wrote:

When I mount the colour cup on my Badger 200-20 & 150 I place them on the left. Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years!

After seeing how natural the left side color cup felt, I immediately got the same idea.  However, the one difference between the 100 sidefeed and the 200/150 bottom feed is that the sidefeed port is perpendicular to the airbrush axis whereas the bottom feed ports angle back.  As a result the cup ends up a lot further back and would probably get in the way if positioned to the left side.  For me it's a semi-moot point (unless I got a second color cup) because I bent the siphon tube on mine to allow the cup to sit level and tucked in on the left side of the 200 and naturally the bend on the tube completely fouls up any possible position on the right side. 

Andy 

Well, live and learn!

I'll have to try mounting the cup on the right side to see if it makes a difference with my siphon fed brushes!

No matter, you'll like the airbrush. I have the 100LG and 150 siphon, and they're great brushes. You'll be somewhere in the middle!

Bgrigg wrote:

I wonder if that's a snafu at the factory?

 I just got an email reply from Badger about it and they confirmed what Andy said. The RH has the cup on the right side and the LH has the cup on the left side.

Hi, Dave! Badger's Model 100 side feed airbrsuhes are designed for truly fine detail.  With dual action control, and operating with lower psi, the user can produce exacting results.   The color cup is on the left side of the left-handed airbrush; it's on the right side of the 100RH airbrush, creating an unobstructed line of sight.   Check out Badger's website...I do believe we have a few side feed airbrushes for sale on the "Garage Sale".   Happy Airbrushing!

ABARNE wrote:

Bgrigg wrote: And yes RH has the cup on the left side of the body for righties, and the LH is on the right for the south paws. Interestingly, the positioning is the exact opposite.  I just recieved my 100 RH yesterday, and the cup actually attaches to the right side of the airbrush body rather than the left side.  Although that seems opposite from what I was expecting, I found that the cup does not interfere with my hand at all.  When I compared the 100's side feed color cup to my 200's bottom feed color cup, the 100's cup is is more forward and further out to the side.  This is how it is able to work on the right side. Although I didn't actually shoot any paint through it, I did find that after holding the airbrush, the position really does make sense.  Positioned on the right means that the cup is hanging on the opposite side of the brush from my line of sight, so I have full visibilty on the the side and over the top of the brush. Andy

Weird! I've only held one in my life and frankly don't know if it was a LH or RH. I presumed RH as the cup was on the left. All the images I have found identify them the same way I did.

When I mount the colour cup on my Badger 200-20 & 150 I place them on the left. Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years!

I wonder if that's a snafu at the factory?

Bgrigg wrote:

And yes RH has the cup on the left side of the body for righties, and the LH is on the right for the south paws.

Interestingly, the positioning is the exact opposite.  I just recieved my 100 RH yesterday, and the cup actually attaches to the right side of the airbrush body rather than the left side.  Although that seems opposite from what I was expecting, I found that the cup does not interfere with my hand at all.  When I compared the 100's side feed color cup to my 200's bottom feed color cup, the 100's cup is is more forward and further out to the side.  This is how it is able to work on the right side.

Although I didn't actually shoot any paint through it, I did find that after holding the airbrush, the position really does make sense.  Positioned on the right means that the cup is hanging on the opposite side of the brush from my line of sight, so I have full visibilty on the the side and over the top of the brush.

Andy

Bgrigg wrote:

For $26 it's a very nice airbrush [100 sidefeed]. I'm considering one for my collection.

That's what I thought too, so I ordered one a couple weeks back.  With a perfectly good Badger 200 NH and Paasche H, it's not as though I "really" need another airbrush, but what the heck, I figured I might as well do my patriotic duty and try and stimulate the economy 

Andy

The rotation is perpendicular to the axis of the airbrush. You can keep the cup level while you pitch the nozzle up or down. Think of it this way, the connection is a fulcrum for the body of the brush so there wouldn't be a change in the operation of the airbrush.

The Badger 360 has a cup that either sits on the top for use as a gravity fed, or rotates below the brush and acts like a siphon fed brush.

Here's a pic of the RH and one for the LH.

Awesome, thanks man!

 Hmm, I suppose with a little practice, one could rotate the 100RH a little to the right to get a little more of the gravity effect.

The SG has a very tiny cup. Actually it shouldn't be called a cup, more of an indentation in the body. Unless you like refilling airbrushes...

The side feed is just that. A side feed brush. The color cup enters the body at the side. It still requires some siphon effect to work, as the bottom of the cup extends below the body of the airbrush. But because it's a side feed, it doesn't have to pull the paint straight up. If a top mounted cup requires 12-15 psi and a "true" siphon requires 15-20 psi, the side feed would be in the 13-17 psi range. For $26 it's a very nice airbrush. I'm considering one for my collection.

The neat thing about the side feed is that you get the sight line of a siphon, without the cup extending so far down it interferes. You can also rotate the cup so you can paint straight down. That was a feature for photo retouchers, but would come in handy!

And yes RH has the cup on the left side of the body for righties, and the LH is on the right for the south paws.