badger Airbrush What's the best??

smokinguns3 wrote:

Next time youorder try http://www.dixieart.com/

They don't have Badgers at this time as their site says:

We currently are reviewing our product line offering and are not able to accept orders for Badger Products at this time. Please contact Badger Airbrush Co at (800-222-7553) for an alternative dealer.

The braided hose is a direct replacement for the vinyl hose. It will connect to the propellant can connector/regulator like the one in this link: http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/537185.asp

 If you intend to use the same hose with a compressor, you will need an adaptor as pictured in this link: http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/bad/bad50-023.htm

EDIT: Here's a better link which shows the two connector types available:

http://www.badgerairbrush.com/Acessories_4.asp

One is specific for the propel can valve/regulator and the other for a standard compressor outlet. If you purchase the type for the propel can and the adaptor below, you will have the best of both worlds.

I didn't realize you were not in the U.S.

Come on people put your location below your avatar.

Zoolander wrote:

Hi Im in New Zealand. so it would be easier to deal with someone through ebay. Thanks.

I have not heard much about buying airbrush in New Zealand. The Australians had repeatedly complained that they paid 2.5 times for a Badger AB compared to what it costs in the US. Would it be cheaper if you buy from Hong Kong or Japan, particularly Japan or Taiwan brands?

For example: http://www.whosedepot.com/servlet/StoreFront

Zoolander wrote:

Also from what I can see these guns do not come with hoses like the 360-7 does. Do you need to buy the hose separate? Thanks.

Usually, that will depend if you're buying the airbrush on its own or in a kit. If it is packaged as a kit, it will usually come with the vinyl air hose, but it is well worthwhile to buy the braided airhose. You may also require the 1/8th to 1/4 inch compressor adaptor.

Why not call David at Coast Airbrush?

He has the 100LG with the medium tip/needle for $60.95

http://www.coastairbrush.com/products.asp?cat=103

Hoses are generally sold seperately unless it is a kit as was mentioned by Phil below.

Zoolander wrote:

Anyone got any links to good sites to buy Badger air brushes at a good price as it seems to very a ALOT! Been looking on ebay but the selection is limited. TIA.

The Ebay has good selection of Badger airbrushes, but, yes, the prices on Ebay varies a lot. Do your homework before buying on Ebay. You can find Badger airbrushes at Michael's Hobby Store locally, but the choice are limited. It is usually a good deal using their Sunday Paper 50% off coupon.

DixieArt, BearAir, Chicago Airbrush Supply, Coast Airbrush, and Airbrush-Depot (TCP Global) are some of the internet dealers with good Badger selections. Add shipping to your total cost when shopping for best price.

The Badger 250 bears no relationship to other Badger double action, internal mix airbrushes. IMHO, you need not limit youself to Badger.

You mentioned "cover the whole car body" earlier. Don't you need a spray guy for that?

Zoolander wrote:

Ok. I think I have narrowed it down to these, the 100LG and the 100G as Im guessing only difference is cup size? The omni 4000, 5000 as Im guessing the only difference is cup size and lid? the vega 1000 and 2000 and the 360. I have dismissed the renegade as It only sprays to 1 inch. The 360 sounds good because it has single nozzle/needle which sounds nice and easy, but I probably would not use the bottom feed and I think it needs a bigger cup maybe with a lid. I guess what Im trying to say is out of these guns what will give the finest pencil finish and be easy to use?? TIA.

In my humble opinion you are looking for the "Holy Grail" of airbrushes and guess what? There is none! It is all about what you decide to use and that's it! There are people that can use any airbrush and paint things better than some of us can regardless, so it all boils down to ability to use an airbrush and that is the bottom line....period!

As I said earlier the Omni 4000 is what I use most. 

I have Badgers, Iwatas and Harder & Steenbecks. My preference is with the H&S brushes. The 2 in 1 combo has both a .15 and .40 needle/nozzle set; the quality is as good as any brush made (better IMO than the Iwatas and for less money) and parts are easy enough to come by.

Regardless of what brand you buy, get a double action, gravity feed. If the brush comes with one needle, get something in the .30 mm range +/- a fraction of a mm. .40 dumps a lot of paint quickly and .15 doesn't.

Zoolander wrote:

All so the renegade looks good but Im not sure how universal it will be i.e for painting entire car bodies. looks like more of an artists brush and may not cover bigger areas as well?

How big of an area are you talking about? If you want to just blast out the paint as wide as possible the best airbrush for that would be the 175 Crescendo as it puts out a lot of paint, as does the 155 Anthem. None of the airbrushes will put out like a spray can or spray gun will though as they were not designed for that volume of paint. You can get maybe a 2" or so width with most of these airbrush with the trigger all the way back. If you hold away even farther the pattern gets a little larger but the paint is drying before it hits the model in most cases.

Zoolander wrote:

Im an air gun novice so don't know a lot. I looked at the 100LG but from their website and chart It only gets 2's and 3's . Is this chart pretty useless for picking a gun. The chart is all I really have to go by and thats why I looked at the 155 and 360 as they seem to get very good ratings.. Thanks for the replies so far.

I never went by those charts as I have 13 different Badgers and know how they perform by hands on use. The 100LG will work great and in fact I tend to use my Omni 4000 more than the 100LG although both are very good.

Dr. Coffee wrote:

While I understand you have a Badger in mind, test out a Harder Steenbeck, if you can find them:  http://www.harder-airbrush.de/english/evolution_05.html They get very good reviews. One problem to watch out for is adapters between this thing with screw threads in metric, and existsing imperial compressors and hoses. Adapters are said to exist, but may be hard to find. Doc

Yes HS makes good airbrushes but I prefer to buy American and you won't find better customer service than Badger.....period!

While I understand you have a Badger in mind, test out a Harder Steenbeck, if you can find them:

 http://www.harder-airbrush.de/english/evolution_05.html

They get very good reviews.

One problem to watch out for is adapters between this thing with screw threads in metric, and existsing imperial compressors and hoses. Adapters are said to exist, but may be hard to find.

Doc

First of all there is no "best" in airbrushes, only what works best for you.

As far as my opinion of the highest quality Badger airbrushes for your needs, the Renegade Velocity would be your best choice followed by the Badger 100LG for a gravity feed airbrush, which I prefer for modeling.

Both will do anything you could ever want in modeling.

I would use the medium needle/tip most of the time in the 100LG and have a fine needle/tip combo on hand to use at times if needed. I can paint anything I need in modeling with the medium tip and don't find the fine tip is needed often as it is hard to spray enamels and acrylics reliably through the fine tip. Now if you want to paint your model bikes and cars with paints like urethanes then you can definitely use the fine tip as these paints have very fine pigments that flow nicely through the airbrush.