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Choosing an airbrush, I know you've heard it before... humor me ...please!

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Choosing an airbrush, I know you've heard it before... humor me ...please!
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 12, 2003 5:59 PM

I am recently planning a comeback into modeling after many years away!!! YEAH!!!
So, I want to get an airbrush... But not just any airbrush. I've been trying to do my homework and searching the net for info. I thought I had it down to a Badger Omni 4000 or Model 100... both seem similar but I think out of the two I would pick the Omni 4k. That was until I decided to look at the Iwata airbrushes. These brushes look amazing and of just as good of quality as Badger, if not better. Now I feel like I don't really know what to get again.
I will say that I have a tendency to jump in and get the almost most expensive and best option out there syndrome in most things I take an interest in! I normally don't go for the absolute most expensive... do to a wife and other responsabilities. But I get close!!! I'm sure some of you guys out there can relate.
I will say that I plan on doing alot of cars in the beginning of my return to the hobby. I feel that they will be easier to get me back into the swing of things. Which is also another concern... how big of cup to get on my brush. I'm pretty sure I have decided to stick with a gravity feed design due to the lower air pressure capabilities and thus providing a finer spray. Just want to make sure while painting a body I don't have to remix colors or add too much color to finish one sitting.
I know i blabed on about a few different things here...sorry. I just consider this a big step and want to make sure I am pleased with my decision. Anyway, Hope to get some objective critisism from all you modelers out there. Thank you very much and I look forward to hearing from you!!!

Respectfully

-Tim
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  • From: Chicago, USA
Posted by MonsterZero on Friday, December 12, 2003 6:30 PM
Some people are blasting those Aztek airbrushes (I have a double action one) so my reply may or may not be popular but I love mine. Sure, it takes a bit of getting used to but it's inexpensive, available with all kinds of cool accessories and so simple and rugged that there's almost nothing to break or damage. A people's airbrush-great value althogh I'm sure there are fancier ones for the excentric artsy types.
:D
I get terrific satisfaction from using the tool and admiring the perfect coats of paint it applies. The special cleaning station that allows be to clean it in the bathroom without spraying paint all over the place is a huge plus. The station doubles as a convenient holder when you're not done painting but need to put it aside fora second. Strongly recommended.

My airbrush set with accessories in a wood case:
http://www.testors.com/catalog_item.asp?itemNbr=47
The cleaning station:
http://www.testors.com/catalog_item.asp?itemNbr=26
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Friday, December 12, 2003 7:50 PM
Tim,

You would be more than happy with either the Omni 4000 or the Iwata Eclipse CS if you want to spend an extra $20 more.
They both hold 1/3 oz. of paint which should be enough for most paint jobs unless you plan on painting a 1/48 scale AC-130 Spectre, in which case you might as well buy a Sata spray gun. Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]
I like the Omni 4000 and just received one from Dixie Art a few days ago and am anxious to give it a try. The Iwata's are a little smoother and a little more precise in the hands of a skilled airbrush user, but I would say they are not a necessity for a beginning airbrush user, or even an advanced one for that matter. The parts are more expensive in the Iwata's and their customer service isn't even close to what Badger's is, who now make the Omni as you probably know.
So choose which one you like, buy it, and you will be happy. Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)]
Actually, I would buy the Omni 4000 and if after using it you think the Iwata would be better, then you could sell the Omni no problem.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 12, 2003 9:46 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV

Tim,

You would be more than happy with either the Omni 4000 or the Iwata Eclipse CS if you want to spend an extra $20 more.
They both hold 1/3 oz. of paint which should be enough for most paint jobs unless you plan on painting a 1/48 scale AC-130 Spectre, in which case you might as well buy a Sata spray gun. Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]
I like the Omni 4000 and just received one from Dixie Art a few days ago and am anxious to give it a try. The Iwata's are a little smoother and a little more precise in the hands of a skilled airbrush user, but I would say they are not a necessity for a beginning airbrush user, or even an advanced one for that matter. The parts are more expensive in the Iwata's and their customer service isn't even close to what Badger's is, who now make the Omni as you probably know.
So choose which one you like, buy it, and you will be happy. Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)]
Actually, I would buy the Omni 4000 and if after using it you think the Iwata would be better, then you could sell the Omni no problem.

Mike


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I too recently bought the Omni 4000...Have yet to lay some paint with it...hoping to do that tomorrow! My first Airbrush was Paasche VL while I like it and will still use it, it does have its limitations....it also has needles and nozzles which need to be swapped out. While the Omni has a single needle for everything....Im sure either way you go you'll be happy. I'll try to post some first impressions of the Omni after I use it this weekend....
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Friday, December 12, 2003 11:18 PM
Chris,

I just tried out the Omni 4000 with some Createx airbrush paint and it works great. It acts very similar to the Omni 3000 I have except the 3000 is a siphon-fed model. I was able to spray lines at or under 1/16" at 20 psi. Big Smile [:D]Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 12, 2003 11:22 PM
WOW thats Awesome Mike....cant wait to fire mine up!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 13, 2003 4:48 PM
thanks guys for your input... I think the 4000 is the winner here... If i were a millionaire I would probably go for the iwata but I'm not so I won't. Thanks again everyone and I look forward to asking more questions in the future!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 13, 2003 5:34 PM
Another vote for the Aztec airbrushes!!! After using an Aztec, I'm not really interested in going back to the more conventional type. The thought of trying to care for one of those darn fragile airbrush needles again makes my head hurt... bad.
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  • From: USA
Posted by mark956 on Saturday, December 13, 2003 7:11 PM
I just purchased the Badger Anthem. I really like it.
mark956
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  • From: South Australia
Posted by South Aussie on Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:19 AM
Originally posted by MonsterZero

Some people are blasting those Aztek airbrushes (I have a double action one) so my reply may or may not be popular but I love mine. Sure, it takes a bit of getting used to but it's inexpensive, available with all kinds of cool accessories and so simple and rugged that there's almost nothing to break or damage. A people's airbrush-great value althogh I'm sure there are fancier ones for the excentric artsy types.
:D
I get terrific satisfaction from using the tool and admiring the perfect coats of paint it applies. The special cleaning station that allows be to clean it in the bathroom without spraying paint all over the place is a huge plus. The station doubles as a convenient holder when you're not done painting but need to put it aside fora second. Strongly recommended.

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Wayne I enjoy getting older, especially when I consider the alternative.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2003 12:03 AM
All my brushes are bassically Iwata, easy to clean and just as easy to fix and replace parts on them.

Someone gave me an Aztec, tried it and dumped it 5 minutes later.
Don't know didn't like the feel of it, maybe I have been using the Iwata for way too long(15+yrs).

For cleaning I got a cleaning station called the "Jellyfish", simply fill the cup with thinner and blow it through the cleaning station till it is empty and minimal cleanup needed after that. Doubles as a airbrush stand too.



There is a selection of simialr ones available from a variety of makers.
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Monday, December 15, 2003 8:49 AM
MadModelFactory,

A cheap alternative to that Jellyfish spray out would be this excellent idea that Matt has on his web page:

http://www.swannysmodels.com/FumeCan.html

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2003 3:04 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV

MadModelFactory,

A cheap alternative to that Jellyfish spray out would be this excellent idea that Matt has on his web page:

http://www.swannysmodels.com/FumeCan.html

Mike


Nice alternative.
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