Aztek Airbursh??

Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:01 AM

Congratulations on your new airbrush. Let us know how you like it after you get it.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:13 AM

Tax returns were generous. I opted for the Omni 4000 and it should be here any day now. Most for the money it appears. Will be tough getting familiar with double action since I'm used to my cheap Badger 250. Found a compressor at Harbor Tool on sale for $60.00. Again, thanks for all the input.

Joe

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 30, 2004 2:09 PM

It appears I have started a debate. I've narrowed it down to the Omni 4000 and Iwata Revolution. Aztec is no longer in the equation. Heard to many terrible things and I don't want to take the chance. They cost too much anyways. Now if only those tax returns would get here!!! Any suggestion on a reasonably priced compressor? I plan to get both at the same time.

Thanks, John Wayne 809

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:27 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by jimz66

I love the easy cleanup and cringe at the thought of having to ever strip one of those metal ones. I will never switch.

I used an Aztek for years and finally ended up with an Iwata HP-CS which is much easier to clean than my aztek.

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jimz66

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December 2002
From: Winsted CT

Posted by jimz66 on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 7:12 PM

I got to say I have several airbrushes. Most are single action kinds. I have four Single Actions that I never use anymore. I have the Aztek 3000 and 370, and I love them. I will never
use any other. I love the easy cleanup and cringe at the thought of having to ever strip one of those metal ones. I will never switch.

Phantoms rule the skies!!!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:29 PM

You're not supposed to soak the body in cleaning fluid, especially not overnight. How did it get clogged so bad that you have to soak the body?

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:51 PM

<subliminal message>

IWATA IWATA IWATA

BADGER BADGER BADGER (sry no mushroom)

OMNI OMNI OMNI

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MikeV

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April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:22 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by CNicoll

Having said all of that, I am in the market for a double-action (Iwata? Paache?) so I can get into some of the complicated camo patterns with really fine lines.

Chris,

I would look at what Badger has also as they make some good quality airbrushes at a reasonable cost.

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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CNicoll

Member since
January 2003
From: Chantilly, Virginia

Posted by CNicoll on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:49 PM

I have the Aztek A370 in the wooden case, with all the nice do-dads and have been using it for the past three years. I've run into some clogging problems lately (thinning?, who knows) but usually when I properly stir and thin the paint, it works fine. I don't use all the different nozzles, just the fine-line one. It works fine since I mostly build 1/48 scale fighters, some armor and automobiles. When I do 1/48 scale bombers, I do use the general nozzle, but I find that it is super easy to clean regardless.

Having said all of that, I am in the market for a double-action (Iwata? Paache?) so I can get into some of the complicated camo patterns with really fine lines. I just have a really hard time getting a very thin line out of the Aztek.

Thanks for all of the posts! I enjoy reading and learning.

Chris

On the bench: Academy 1/72 B-17G 'Blue Hen Chick'; 1/48 Tamiya Mustang III; Kitty Hawk 1/32 P-39.

Completed: 1/48 Tamiya P-51D Mustang - 'Show Bird', 1/32 Dragon P-51D Flying Tigers 'What if'; 1/32 Tamiya P-51D Big Beautiful Doll

Group build:1/48 Tamiya Mustang III; 1/48 Tamiya P-51D Show Bird

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:21 PM

my first airbrush was the a220. it worked fine, cept i had to adjust the bottle to perfection or it didnt work

my 2nd airbrush should have been a revolution bcr, only think is w/airhose, the revolution would have cost 2ce as much as an aztec. i wasnt the one paying.

besides, all good airbrushes only use 1 tip that almost never breaks/worn out. aztec: 1 day after i had to replace the nozzle. its not he set that came in a hardwood box.

oh and reading an old badger ad in fsm, i saw the fact that u only really need 1 nozzle and fancy packaging is just for looks; not using

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roosterfish

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November 2003
From: Stockton CA USA

Posted by roosterfish on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 12:38 AM

If I had a perference I would buy a large capacity bowl Omni 4000 brush. In fact I did buy a 4000. My logic is it is better to have too big of a bowl and have extra paint than to be a little short of paint using an air brush with a smaller capacity bowl. And the 4000 is very much like my Iwata HP-C. My HP-B with the smaller bowl runs out too quickly and is good for finishing up smaller areas. Then for the smallest areas I use a Nailaire air brush.

The Omni series is a good, all purpose, inexpensive, quality, airbrush. You wouldn't go wrong with an Omni series.

Winners never quit; quitters never win.

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:27 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by kik36

Mike, it was a toss-up between the 4000, 5000, and 6000. Since the only difference was the cups I thought it would be simple....but I swear I must have stared at them for a few hours, and I still couldn't decide which one. They all have their own pros. I do generally paint light coats, and figured I didn't need too bulky of a cup, but the way I finally decided which one.......I let my girlfriend pick it.....lol......she bought it for my birthday present, and she thought it looked "sexy".......

Haha. That's a good way to decide. The reason I asked was because the Omni 5000 has a small 1/8 oz cup that does fine most of the time, but you have to be careful if you fill it very much as it is easy to spill it. I have a Vega 1000 which has the same size cup.
You may not need to fill it very much, but if you are building something like a 1/48 scale B-17 or something you may be tempted to fill that little reservoir up to make sure you have enough paint for your project, in which case the Omni 4000 would have been a better choice. The Omni 4000 also has a cap that press fits over the color cup to help you not spill any paint. Wink [;)]

If you build mainly 1/72 scale kits then the Omni 5000 should be all you need as that 1/8 oz of paint goes a long way at 10-20 psi. Big Smile [:D]

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:20 PM

Roosterfish is almost right. Big Smile [:D]

The Omni 3000 is a siphon-feed model and can use cups from 1/4 oz on up to 3 oz or more. The rest of what Roosterfish said was correct though as those models are all gravity-feed models. Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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roosterfish

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November 2003
From: Stockton CA USA

Posted by roosterfish on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:24 PM

I know I'm not Mike but I might be able to answer your question.

Simply, the difference between the Omni 3000, 4000, 5000 are the size of the paint cups. 3000 is the smallest (small drops of paint), 4000 is the largest (1/3 oz.) and 5000 is middle sized at 1/8 oz. The 6000 is the side cup version of the 4000 holding 1/3 oz of paint.

Winners never quit; quitters never win.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:20 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV

Why the Omni 5000? Do you like the smaller color cups or just don't need that much paint?

Mike, it was a toss-up between the 4000, 5000, and 6000. Since the only difference was the cups I thought it would be simple....but I swear I must have stared at them for a few hours, and I still couldn't decide which one. They all have their own pros. I do generally paint light coats, and figured I didn't need too bulky of a cup, but the way I finally decided which one.......I let my girlfriend pick it.....lol......she bought it for my birthday present, and she thought it looked "sexy"....... Big Smile [:D]

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thevinman

Member since
December 2003
From: CT - USA

Posted by thevinman on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:51 PM

Mike,
What are the major differences between the Omni Models?
(3000B, 4000G, 5000G, 6000S)?

-Vinny

My Website Macross Group Build

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:41 PM

Snowy,

Good points my friend. Wink [;)]

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:21 PM

Mike, I think you're right about Testor's marketing. Who hasn't noticed the relatively large number of people making their first airbrush purchase who are drawn straight to the Aztecs with the nice wooden box and all the nozzles, etc? Probably unaware that a well designed brush doesn't need all this. It would be interesting to see some marketing stats on what percentage of Aztec buyers are actually 2nd time, experienced airbrush users moving AWAY from the likes of Iwata, Badger, Thayer&Chandler etc and into the Aztec fold as long term users.

Cheers...Snowy.

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MikeV

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April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:56 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by unnamedplayer

well... mikev thats sweet, but my aztec craps out on me all the time, then when i test it again with water, it works. then properly thinned paint: no go. oh and my aztec a220 is BETTER (imho) than my aztec a370 (discontinued)

I was not endorsing the Aztek by any means, I was just posting what is possible in the right hands with this airbrush that receives such mixed reviews.
I personally don't like them and I feel they are marketed in such a way as to be deceptive to potential buyers such as how Testors leads you to believe you need 8 nozzles to get all the effects you need.
If you have read many of my posts you are well aware that I am a loyal Omni/Badger user and prefer the airbrushes produced by Badger as they work great, are priced fairly and the customer service is outstanding.

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:33 PM

well... mikev thats sweet, but my aztec craps out on me all the time, then when i test it again with water, it works. then properly thinned paint: no go. oh and my aztec a220 is BETTER (imho) than my aztec a370 (discontinued)

i still suggest iwata revolution cr. think hp-c's little brother.

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echolmberg

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February 2003
From: Green Bay, WI USA

Posted by echolmberg on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:45 AM

Joe,

If your friend called them "junk" it's only because he didn't know how to use it. I've got two airbrushes: and Iwata and an Aztek and I love them both. You'll have 100 people writing in response to your question and you'll get 100 different opinions. Do some research. Some airbrushes work better with certain types of paints (eg. acrylic, enamel, etc) so get the kind that might work best for the paint you plan on using. Don't listen to what eveybody else says. It's all a matter of whatever works best for you. You might buy two, three or four airbrushes over time in order to find the one that suits you. When someone says "the best airbrush is..." what they're really saying is "the best airbrush that worked for them is...."

Have fun checking it all out and best wishes!

Eric

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Monday, January 12, 2004 11:56 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by kik36

Hey Mike, I was just up in your are around X-mas time, went to this nice hobby shop with hundreds of reference books, and models......it was like heaven. Unfortunately not too familiar with the area, and I forgot the name of it.....I was visiting my friend and he took me there...it's between Hollister and Frisco, near San Jose I believe. Anywho, ordered the Omni 5000 online earlier from Dixie. Can't wait to get my hands on that beauty!!! I hear so many wonderful things about it!!!

Why the Omni 5000? Do you like the smaller color cups or just don't need that much paint?

That hobby store you went to could have been either D&J Hobbies in Campbell (near San Jose) or the big one across the bay which is San Antonio Hobby Shop.

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 12, 2004 11:35 PM

Hey Mike, I was just up in your are around X-mas time, went to this nice hobby shop with hundreds of reference books, and models......it was like heaven. Unfortunately not too familiar with the area, and I forgot the name of it.....I was visiting my friend and he took me there...it's between Hollister and Frisco, near San Jose I believe. Anywho, ordered the Omni 5000 online earlier from Dixie. Can't wait to get my hands on that beauty!!! I hear so many wonderful things about it!!!

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Monday, January 12, 2004 11:19 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by kik36

Now it's time for that Omni!!!!! Hopefully I'll get it this weekend, and I'll let you know how it works

I like the way you think my friend. Big Smile [:D]

Take a drive up to Anaheim and get it from Coast Airbrush, but beware as Dave will try and steer you to the dark side with the Iwata Eclipse instead. Laugh [(-D]

Let us know if you get it and what you think of it. We have to get more people buying these good American made Omni's to counteract the evil Iwata empire. SoapBox [soapbox]

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 12, 2004 10:47 PM

Well my Aztek crapped out yesterday......I soaked the airbrush overnight after some serious clogging. Now the air portion of the trigger does not work, and since it's a molded body I can't tear it apart to fix it. It started as a dual now it's a single!! LOL As much as I enjoyed the option of changing tips on a wim, I'll leave it as it is.......a starter brush. Now it's time for that Omni!!!!! Hopefully I'll get it this weekend, and I'll let you know how it works

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Monday, January 12, 2004 10:29 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by unnamedplayer

aztec = teh sux

This was painted with an Aztek. So it's not just the instrument but the hands that wield them. Wink [;)]

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 12, 2004 7:39 PM

aztec = teh sux

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se5022

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October 2003

Posted by se5022 on Monday, January 12, 2004 4:00 PM

Being a trained artist, I have a Badger (that I bought in 12th grade) that I used through college and still do. I have also obtained 2 Paasches and an Aztech. All of these brushes have thier strong and weak points. My only advice is to get one and learn how to use it. If you have friends with different airbrushes, ask them if you could try them out.

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plasticmod992

Member since
January 2003
From: The Hoosier State

Posted by plasticmod992 on Sunday, December 21, 2003 5:29 PM

The Iwata Revolution airbrush; gravity feed, double action is priced at only $59.00 at www.Dixieart.com. Not sure what your spraying will be for your modeling but this is one awesome airbrush! It handles all paints from acrylics to laquers with ease. The .5mm is sutible for our thicker hobby paints and is able to spray fine lines as well as Iwatas higher-end brushes. The quality is typical Iwata without the high price. Lastly the parts are not as expensive either...good for us! Check the Revolution out, I know I couldn't be happier with this airbrush.

Greg Williams Owner/ Manager Modern Hobbies LLC Indianapolis, IN. IPMS #44084

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