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Help with Future Floor Polish
Posted by takos on Saturday, April 3, 2010 12:29 PM

I recently tried using a thinning concoction found on anothe modeling website using Future, Windex, Alcohol and craft paint, When I sprayed it onto a test piece or cardboard the surface developed somewhat large bubbles that then popped and showed the color underneath, I thought it was the windex, so I thinned some acrylic paint with just Pledge with Future Shine and Viola!!! the same result, looks like a bubbling tar pit. Did they add some sort of a cleaner into the Future, the website says it contains surfactants, could that cause the bubbling. I tried thinning the paint with Windex alone and that worked out fine though I am not sure it needs the Future to bond with the Tamiya primer coat underneath. I want to be able to spray the finished model with Future and apply decals, but I am fearful that the Pledge with future may ruin my paint job and I just spent hours masking the parts. Please help!!!!

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  • From: Peoples Socialist Democratic Republic of Illinois
Posted by Triarius on Saturday, April 3, 2010 2:33 PM

What does the craft paint say to use as a thinning solvent?

What alcohol did you use?

It sounds like a compatibility problem, too much alcohol, too heavy a coat, flash drying, and a substrate problem (cardboard is not a good test medium—use scrap.)

Do not use Windex to thin anything. Use it for cleaning only.

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by takos on Saturday, April 3, 2010 3:13 PM

The concoction in question was the brainchild of another modeler on the Starship Modeling forum as a way he developed to use craft paint for certain science fiction models. The brew was praised by many who tried it and I did not hear from anyone who did not have success with it. Prior to that some people had thinned certain craft paints with Future alone and had gotten acceptable results. The reason I wanted an answer to this was because my LHS did not have  the shade of tamiya acrylic I needed and they only model masters they sell are enamels.I had the exact shade of craft paint I needed in my closet.  After thinning the craft paint with windex I did get it to spray out of my airbrush and stick quite well I might add, will the paint job win any awards, no, but that has more to do with my lack of skill more than the paint used.  I also thinned with 91% Isopropyl alcohol but as it sat in the paint cup the paint started separating before my eyes.

The question was did they change the formulation of Future because when I mixed with paint and shot through my AB  it bubbled when it hit the surface, both the cardboard as well as the primed styrene sheet I was using to test my concoctions. I have since painted my model but I want to add decals and am afraid thet the future will bubble up again and I will ruin hours of work.

 

Thanks

  • Member since
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  • From: Peoples Socialist Democratic Republic of Illinois
Posted by Triarius on Saturday, April 3, 2010 3:53 PM

As of a few months ago, the formulation of Future had not changed.

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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  • From: Steilacoom, Washington
Posted by Killjoy on Saturday, April 3, 2010 11:44 PM

I have used future to thin craft paint, like apple barrel, when doing a diorama with a friend.  Using hobby paints would have been cost prohibitive. 

If I remember correctly, I thinned about 50-50, BUT, 50% paint, 25% distilled water, 25% future.  I have never had success using anything with alcohol in it to thin acrylic paints other than Tamiya.

And please listen to Ross!  Don't thin with Windex, it is a cleaner!  Ammonia is very bad for the long-term life of your paint job, and when atomized, is none too good for you either!

Chris

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  • From: Puyallup, WA
Posted by TheKelev on Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:11 PM

Future with Pledge is not the same as plain Future.  The addition of "Pledge" makes it unsuitable for model use.  Only plain Future should be used on models.

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  • From: Puyallup, WA
Posted by TheKelev on Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:22 PM

Sorry I was mistaken.  Please disregard the previous post.

 

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