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Fine Heads on a Badger 200

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Fine Heads on a Badger 200
Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 2:49 AM
I currently run a Badger 200 with the stock medium head. This is fine for the bulk of my modelling, but I was wondering if a fine head, either XF or IL would be worth aquiring for detail work, ie small scale camo paterns and exhaust staining?

I usually spray Gunze acrylics at 15-20 psi from a compressor.

I will be looking at a dual action brush later in the year, probably a Badger 155, but seeing as I am happy with the 200 wondered if there ways to increase its range?

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 10:43 AM
Hello

I'm currently in a similar situation, I'm happy with my badger 200 but want to get the 150 in order to make better camo patterns, I have my doubts in the finer head for the 200 since I use mostly enamels and maybe it doesn't work properly (you don't have this problem with acrylics), in the other hand, I have a feel that a double action airbrush will allow to get better results (more control on the paint flow).

Finally I think, in my case the best choice is to use the 200 with medium and large head for overall work and get the 150 for finer works.

I hope this was helpful to you.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 9, 2004 3:49 AM
You have more problems with enamels than acrylics? Hobby acrylics dry much faster than tend to clog tips up easier. I have the fine tip for the Badger 200. Actually, I have 3 of them. Got the first one but it didn't come with the regulator so i couldn't use it. When out and got a complete head assembly because I couldn't fine just the regulator at a local hobby shop. Then I acquired another complete Badger 200 set used. It works fine without any problems. Just make sure you keep the tip clean. Actually the XF head is the same assembly that is used on the double action Badger 150. Isn't the IL the standard head assembly?

I think Badger also has a head assembly that is very similar to the tip of the Badger 155 for use with the Badger 200. It's a multi purpose head so you don't need to keep changing head and needle to get the spray pattern range.
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Posted by KJ200 on Monday, January 12, 2004 7:16 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys.

I'm in two minds at the moment as whether to go for a fine head, or just get a double action brush.

Karl

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Posted by kenbadger on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 3:06 PM
Just want to clarify one thing regarding hungfarlow's post. There are currently two different types of Badger 200. The currently manufactured 200NH cannot accept the fine, medium, and heavy needle variations. It is a single needle/nozzle design like the Badger Anthem 155 and Universal 360.

The Badger 200-20 detail airbrush comes with a detail nozzle and if desired can accomodate the old fine, medium, and heavy nozzle configurations.

The 200-20 airbrush is recommended as a detail single action and designed to operate primarily on detail applications in its stock availability. The 200NH is recommended as a general purpose gun.

Hopes this info helps. If I can be of further assistance, please feel free to email me direct at kenbadger@aol.com

Take air,
Ken Schlotfeldt
President - Badger Air-Brush Co.

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Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 7:00 AM
Ken, thanks for that.

Mine is a 200NH, so that rules out the fine tip option.

As per my previous post I'm leaning towards the double action brush. Am I correct in thinking the Anthem 155 has the same head limitations as the 200NH?

If so a Crescendo 175 is looking appealing.

Many thanks

KarlBig Smile [:D]

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Posted by kenbadger on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:06 PM
The 175 is an excellent airbrush, but it does have a different feel due to it's girth. It is a very user friendly drop in tip airbrush (read on to find out about non-drop in tip designed airbrushes, and why you may wish to consider them as well)
Depending on if you are looking at dual action for more pattern versatility on the fly or for better detail control, I would reccomend either a 150 or a 100. The 150 will keep you in bottom feed and thus maintain your working pace and control. The 100 being gravity feed will enable you to reduce your working pressure and therefore have better control in detail applications. Both of these models enable you to convert tips and needles for the different mediums you are spraying, and will give you a tighter spray pattern than any of the drop in tip airbrushes currently on the market (in our line or any other). The downside is that these tighter line nozzles are inherintly more finicky, but the end detail result once accustom to using them is most gratifying. The other alternative for an airbrush in the Badger maufacturing family that has the ability to change tips and needles for differing mediums is the Thayer & Chandler Vega series. These airbrushes offer fine, medium, and heavy nozzles and the less finicky drop in tip design, but because of with the more user friendly drop in tip design comes slightly less detail spray pattern capability. Hope this info helps - contact otherwise or if you have any other questions.

Take air, Ken @ Badger

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 2:43 AM
Just wondering, why wasn't the 200NH given a new number such as 205? It's going to cause some confusion for people buying parts. I bought 150 parts for my Badger just because I knew they were the same. I cannot find 200 parts in retail anymore.

By drop in tip do you mean the single nozzle/needle design?

I got a Badger 360 about a month ago, and I love it. Only problem is that it doesn't hold enough paint when using it in gravity feed mode. Any chance of an accessory that will extend the capacity? Seems like some sort of plastic lining would do.
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Posted by KJ200 on Friday, January 16, 2004 3:22 AM
Hungarfarlow, have you tried Dixieart?

They seem to stock everything parts wise for all Badger brushes.

http://www.dixieart.com

Kenbadger, thanks for the advise. The 100 looks very good, as I would only be using the brush for detail work, my trusty 200 bearing the brunt of all other painting. I keep seeing reference to the Omni 4000, how does that square up in comparison to the 100 & 150?

Thanks

KarlBig Smile [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 19, 2004 11:02 PM
Yeah, that's where I eventually ended up buying the regulator from. Now I have 3 complete fine head assemblies. Bummer, I noticed a pulsating spray with my Badger 200. I think it's time to replace the needle bearing o ring. I'll probably be using the 360 most of my airbrushing work now. Probably either hand off the 200's to some younger modelers or just use them for clear coating. I also got an Iwata Eclipse with the order.
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