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  • Member since
    December 2009
  • From: Laurel, MD
Posted by Tucohoward on Thursday, July 15, 2010 11:47 AM

I recently switched to Mr. Color from MM Acryl. I liked Acryl but read so many good things about Mr. Color that I switched. Very impressed. Tamiya is also very good.

 

Jay

The Mighty Mo says no.

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:28 AM

HawkeyeHobbies

...Where are they and what are they buying?

Shortened just to keep the post short. Spend enough time in a Hobby Shop in the aisles and you learn one thing. The average customer isn't...you.

Hawk is of course correct. I'd like to see my LHS stock only Colourcoat ship colors because I am modeling ships now. Two years ago, MM because I was building aircraft and blindly thought that a Testors RLM72 was in fact that. Ten years ago, the dude typing now was a model railroader and Polly Scale was the bomb.

Today I was in my LHS buying Floquil "Engine Black" for my HMS Victory, and I saw the usual befuddled dad with kid staring blankly at the wall of paints.

"Can I help?".

"I'm looking for Candy Apple Red".

"Oh, you two are doing a car model".

"No, he has a school project and we need a transparent red color for some fruit he made out of paper mache".

I'd like to see the hobby shop stock what the customers want. I can buy what I want on line.

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  • From: Virginia
Posted by Wingman_kz on Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:58 AM

Thanks batai37. I may order a couple bottles to try and show him the results.

Tony

            

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Posted by Aaronw on Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:55 AM

I don't see Testors (MM and Pollyscale) being comparable to Tamiya, they will appeal to competely different people. Testors offers a huge range of colors, Tamiya a small (relatively) so requires mixing, MM and Pollyscale can be hand brushed, Tamiya not so much.

Games Workshop is pretty good paint, but the range of color is not aimed at the historical military modeler, so again, not a good replacement for Testors.

 

Vallejo is the only paint I am familiar with that could potentially attract the MM / PS users being friendly to brush painters and offering a wide range of historical colors. You have mentioned he doesn't seem interested in Vallejo though.

Sounds like he has found himself in a pickle not wanting to sell a brand of paint that sells well. 

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Posted by batai37 on Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:16 AM

Wingman_kz

Who said he's having any problems selling paint Hawkeye? And outside of being hit by the recession just like everyone else his customers are right there, buying from him. He's been selling Testors products for a long time and I don't know what may have happened, didn't feel it was my place to ask, but he didn't seem to be very happy with them right now.

Thanks for the replies. I was hoping maybe some Mr Color fans would chime in. He sells what Polly Scale paints are available now along with Floquil and Pactra. They're all Testors products. I agree with you guys, I like Tamiya acrylics. They work very well. I like MM enamels and acrylics too, I like having variety. And that's one thing about the Model Master line, it covers just about everything under the sun. I seriously doubt that he'll stop carrying Testors products, probably just some misunderstanding that will be ironed out. I am going to suggest again that he stock Tamiya and that if he would like something with more colors available then possibly Mr Color or Vallejo.

Tony

I've used Mr. Color paints to an extent, and I've been pleased with them. Properly thinned they shoot like a dream, go down smooth and level well, and dry extremely fast.

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  • From: Virginia
Posted by Wingman_kz on Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:11 AM

Who said he's having any problems selling paint Hawkeye? And outside of being hit by the recession just like everyone else his customers are right there, buying from him. He's been selling Testors products for a long time and I don't know what may have happened, didn't feel it was my place to ask, but he didn't seem to be very happy with them right now.

Thanks for the replies. I was hoping maybe some Mr Color fans would chime in. He sells what Polly Scale paints are available now along with Floquil and Pactra. They're all Testors products. I agree with you guys, I like Tamiya acrylics. They work very well. I like MM enamels and acrylics too, I like having variety. And that's one thing about the Model Master line, it covers just about everything under the sun. I seriously doubt that he'll stop carrying Testors products, probably just some misunderstanding that will be ironed out. I am going to suggest again that he stock Tamiya and that if he would like something with more colors available then possibly Mr Color or Vallejo.

Tony

            

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  • From: Jefferson City, MO
Posted by iraqiwildman on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:26 PM

Another vote for Tamiya.

Their selection will cover most needs. It's hard to tell the difference in the shape differences for some of the large selections.

Tim Wilding

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  • From: Fort Worth, TX
Posted by RESlusher on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:16 PM

Personally, I'm not at all wild about their(testor's MM) acryllics; but their enamels ROCK!!

 

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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  • From: Steilacoom, Washington
Posted by Killjoy on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:09 PM

Other than Tamiya, I find the easiest paints to work with are Vallejo's model air, which shoots very well and comes in a decent military color range, and Golden's airbrush, which comes in a good primary and seondary color range. 

That being said, none of these options put together have as many choices as Testors MM Acryl

(who I also dislike!) 

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  • From: Fort Worth, TX
Posted by RESlusher on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:18 AM

Tony,

I agree with him that Tamiya doesn't have a HUGE selection.  Fortunately for me, my needs are fairly simple.  I like their flat acryllics and use them almost exclusively.

However from time to time there is something special I need and like many of us in this hobby I too hate to mix!  When Tamiya doesn't have it, I go to Testor's Model Master lines. 

 

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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  • From: Neenah, WI
Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:09 AM

I'd advise your friend to do a couple of things. First get a FREE subscription to Model Retailer magazine which is one of FSM sister publications. It is for the retailer, not the consumer. If he is already getting it, is he reading it? It will help him see what is selling and what isn't before committing to stocking a product.

Second he should spend at least one day (two would be better) at this years iHobby Expo in Chicago (October) to visit with and see what products are available to him. He'll have the chance to meet and talk with the mfrs and distributors face to face. He'll also be able to take advantage of any specials they might be offering at the show. If he could even have his airline ticket paid for!

The thing about paints, you can never have enough lines or the offerings in the line. On the other hand having too much is a waste too, especially when it doesn't sell. Very few LHS stock everything for that very reason. Floor space is valuable, and having a paint rack filled with product that doesn't turn over does little for the bottom line. Bringing in a full line is expensive.

If he's having problems selling MM, what makes him think he can sell other lines? Apparently his customers aren't buying paint from him. So I ask the question, Where are they and what are they buying?

 

 

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

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  • From: Tampa, FL USA
Posted by The Mad Klingon on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:33 AM

I am big fan of acrylics; I use Tamiya and Testor's Acryls almost exclusively.

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Posted by TD4438 on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:16 AM

Polly Scale paints are my absolute favorite.I like Tamiya,but it has a tendancy to disintegrate upon contact with other brands of paint and some times plastic.

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  • From: ireland
Posted by david on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:59 AM

i agree tamiya acrylic is good humbrol acrylics are just as good though, i have been using them for sometime now i also use revell aquacolour but i prefer humbrol acrylics and tamiya acrylics

hope this helps

DAVID
  • Member since
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  • From: Scotland
Posted by Milairjunkie on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:42 AM

Tamiya Acrylic.

It's a fact that they don't offer the range of some others, but most of the usual suspects are available. Tamiya airbrushes very well & is in my opinion a thoroughly consistent product.

Although some will shoot me down, I have tried to use Humbrol acrylic on several occasions (because of the wider range), & have been far from impressed with the quality & consistency in comparison to Tamiya.

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  • From: Virginia
What line of paints would you recommend?
Posted by Wingman_kz on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:39 AM

Last week the owner of my favorite LHS asked what type of paints I would like to see him stock.  I don't know the reason but he has become less than happy with Testors. He's the only shop in the area that carries their full line. Everything. I suggested Tamiya as there's only one shop in town that sells them and they're way on the other side from me. Plus, I'm sure he'd rather I buy from him. I would too, just because of the distance. But, his response to Tamiya was that they don't have a lot of colors. I said yeh, you have to mix. And he said that's why he has carried every color Testors sells because a lot of people don't want to mix.

I didn't suggest Mr Color paints at the time because I wasn't sure of their availability now. It is a shame that their Aqueous line has been cut back and not available stateside but, there are a lot of colors available with Mr Color. Not to mention their other products. But, being entirely self-serving, I do like lacquers and if they are good paints I'd really like to suggest them. They do seem to be reasonably priced but the bottles are small. 10ml I think. Testors are 13ml and the big Tamiyas are 23ml.

For you guys that have airbrushed with them, do you like them? Get good results? I've used Mr Color thinner with nail polishes and touch up paints on car models and really liked it. Worked well, was fairly mild and seemed equal to a slow drying lacquer thinner. I like working with lacquers. But, while they may work well in an airbrush I doubt they brush very well. Does Mr Leveler or Mr Retarder(?) make them useable with a brush?

What about Humbrol paints? I know they've been around forever and have a good selection of colors but have never used them. Are those little tins a pain? Are they readily available in the states? For some reason I didn't think of them.

He didn't seem at all interested in Vallejo or Lifecolor.

Like I said, I don't know what's happened but evidently the shop owner is about ready to toss all the MM paints and their racks out in the parking lot. He didn't put it in those exact words but for some reason he wasn't happy. And this is a fellow that's been in the business for ages. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Tony

            

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