paasche talon??????

I have a Talon set. I doubt you'd need the fan air cap - believe that's something for painting on canvas. I also have a VLS and a HS Evolution. When I started modeling, I figured that in the world of $50 kits that an airbrush was a good investment. So I use them like a painter would use his brushes - you use big thing for big things and small thing for small. The Talon is a better brush than the VLS - if nothing else it has the control like you'd find of the Evol to raise or lower how far back you can pull the air release. I had poor luck with the Talon at .25mm: much better with .50mm. I had somewhat better fortune with the Evol at .20mm than the Talon, but I've already sent for a new O-ring on the tip. There's little doubt that the Evol has a cleaner feel and easier assembly than anything made by Paasche. But is it better? I doubt it. One of my favorite modeling writer is Gary Edmundson and he uses a Paasche H-series: that's a single action. Edmundson claims it's trumps because it's so easy to keep clean. If that brush is indeed easier to keep clean, then changing the other variables (distance, psi, thickness of paint) could go a long way equalize the playing field. I guess it boils down to what heaven knows how many folks here have said: it's the skill of the painter and not the quality of the brush that counts. If things are working well, they all do pretty much the same thing. But let me discourage you from buying a Talon: it is more precise. And if you use the mid or big size nozzle you'll have something like the VLS.

Eric

hey thanks for the info!!! like i said i got 3 master airbrushes(g43,g22&s68)& they all work fine, i just thought i'd step up to a brandname & it sounded like a great deal!!!!! thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!

airwolfnutt

hey thanks for the info!!! like i said i got 3 master airbrushes(g43,g22&s68)& they all work fine, i just thought i'd step up to a brandname & it sounded like a great deal!!!!! thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!

Not all brands are created equal. Before you put down your money, it will be a good idea to hold the airbrush in your hand to try the weight balance and the smoothness of the trigger. It would be very easy to tell since you are already experienced with the Master airbrush.

I have several name brand and 2 knock-offs too. And Iwata and Harder & Steenbeck are my favorites if I want to spend more than the knock-off. Besides the balance and trigger, they are designed for easy cleaning. And they use high quality, durable material for the nozzle and needle.

i've been doing a lot of looking on line & the few shops in my area & i think i'm going to pony up the money & get the iwata hp-c plus 4004. still not sure, i would like to look at few other brands!!!!

airwolfnutt

i've been doing a lot of looking on line & the few shops in my area & i think i'm going to pony up the money & get the iwata hp-c plus 4004. still not sure, i would like to look at few other brands!!!!

At that price point, you may want to take a look at the Harder & Steenbeck Evolution Silverline 2-in-1. I have the Solo and like it. The 2-in-1 includes 2 nozzles, 2 color cup, fine air valve and a handle preset.

I still go to my Iwata Eclipse HP-CS most of the time for modeling task. But there is the familarity factor in it. If I were to start from scratch today, the H&S seems to be a better value for the money.

its funny you mention the harder & steenbeck, i was looking at the infinity solo. its a little more money, but a have no problems with pay for quality!!! well i got it norrowed down its time to think & make a choice between iwata or harder & steenbeck!!!!! thanks for all the info!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Evol is a fine brush and I like mine a lot. I wouldn't throw away my other ones however. It's nice to know that you can switch tip, nozzle and needle but in the real world you might find it easier to grab one already set up for broad coverage or detail (or something in between). I suspect that the real enjoyment of a top quality brush is more clear to the people that don't really need it. They're actually very simple devices that have been around for a century. I know fly fishermen that will spend outrageous amounts of money on high tech (or bamboo - an aesthetic statement for the rich fisherman). The ones that really appreciate the "feel" could catch just as many fish on a knock-off graphite composite - the size of the rod and it's appropriateness to the situation dwarfs any advantage of one type to another. If there are good modelers out there - and there are - that plug for single action brushes that's a sure sign that a good hand with the brush beats the devil out of the brand. But a good one does have a nice "feel" whether you'd really need that or not to make a good model. The Evolution 2 for 1 isn't really that great of a deal BTW. You can buy an extra needle/noozle/tip any time you want for about the same amount of money. (If you're getting the smallest needle, you might want a spare one of those, however, cause they're fragile. I'd get the bigger cup and lid though - the standard version is very small.) Anyway, there's a market out there for airbrush holders that hold 4: I'd guess a lot of good modelers have more than one at the ready. The best guy I know - a RC loonie - has five.  Kind of like a Bass Pro guy rodding around with 12 rods.  But don't forget, no matter how many airbrushes you buy, it's going to a heck of a lot cheaper than buying a bass boat (or going fly fishing) so it's a sane indulgence.

Eric