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Thinning Vallejo Model Color paints for airbrushing.

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Thinning Vallejo Model Color paints for airbrushing.
Posted by saddle tramp on Friday, October 29, 2010 11:03 AM

All recommendations on how to thin Model Color (not Model Air) paints by Vallejo for use in an airbrush would be most appreciated.

According to Vallejo, they are fine for airbrushing if thinned correctly with their thinner.  They claim that, mixed correctly they will not get lumpy or gummy.

Also, they seem to be more difficult to clean out of the airbrush cup than other acrylics.  Any suggestions?

The range of colors in th Model Color line is very broad.  That is why I am interested in using them.

 

Thanks for all help and suggestions.  Bill

Bill
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    March 2003
  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, October 29, 2010 11:05 AM

thin with distilled water,or their thinner.Don't use alcohol !!

  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: Democratic Peoples Republic of Illinois
Posted by Hercmech on Friday, October 29, 2010 11:09 AM

I've used Liqutex and windex as well as Vallejo brand thinnner. But I echo the above post...DON"T USE ALCOHOL! It will turn to a blob.


13151015

  • Member since
    September 2010
  • From: DFW, Texas
Posted by NervousEnergy on Friday, October 29, 2010 11:12 AM

I used the Vallejo thinner for both Model Color and Model Air (the darker colors of Model Air still need to be thinned down a fair bit if you're looking for fine lines, such as RLM 83), but switched to a bottle of Liquitex Airbrush Medium.  It's pretty much the same stuff... clear acrylic resin, retarder, and flow aid.  The Liquitex is much cheaper by volume, and the retarding function is better.  I still need to swab the tip every couple of minutes with the Vallejo thinner (their instructions even mention this), but it's much less often with the Liquitex medium, and if it's a 5 minute session and/or lighter colors I don't need to clean the tip at all.

  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, October 29, 2010 11:36 AM

Now that I've discovered White Ensign, Vallejo's kinda become my #2 paint, but I went through a lot of trial and error with the stuff when I was building my Dauntless. 

I've found thinning with water to be useless. By the time you get it thin enough to spray without immediately clogging, it comes out all, well, watery.

Airbrush medium has similar problems.

The BEST mix I found, almost across the board, is thinning Vallejo Model Color with Future. Sweet spot is around 1:1, give or take depending on your specific color or airbrush. The stuff will still clog up in the nozzle over time, but a quick dab with a wet q-tip will clear it up. I've found the Future has enough weight to it to keep things from going all watery, and it lays down really well in thin coats.

The other great thing about thinning with Future? Tough, glass-smooth, semi-gloss finish.

Cleanup with Windex, then flush thoroughly with water.

Also, a few caveats based on my experience:

1 - While the Vallejo can do awesome soft edges, I've found it doesn't like to spray fine lines at all. I wouldn't use it for pre or post-shading. Or mottled patterns like you'd fine on Luftwaffe planes. But for major surface colors, it's fine.

2 - Vallejo doesn't reduce very well. I've thinned Tamiya down to ridiculous levels for post-shading and stuff and still gotten fantastic results. Beyond maybe 4:1, though, Vallejo tends to separate in the thinning medium. 

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  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: Democratic Peoples Republic of Illinois
Posted by Hercmech on Friday, October 29, 2010 12:11 PM

I have used future too...thanks for the reminder Doogs. Thats the great thing about having a short memory...rediscovering "new" techniques with every kit. One of these days I will have to write what I do down so I dont have to ask "how did I do that last time"


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  • Member since
    January 2009
  • From: Tempe, AZ
Posted by eptingmike on Friday, November 5, 2010 12:57 PM

I have used Liquitex Airbrush medium successfully with Vallejo. 

I am very curious about trying Future as suggested above. 

Great tips everyone!

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