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BEWARE: Iwata Airbush & Triple Action Handle

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  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, January 10, 2011 5:30 PM

Attention Iwata airbrush users:

My Iwata Eclipse HP-CS broke twice within 4-5 months.  The movable part of needle chuckling guide (part #14 on parts chart) broke off shown in picture below.  I paid $20 for a replacement the first time when it happened.

 The guide broke again over the weekend, I figured it has to be something wrong so I called Iwata customer service today to find out and talked with a very nice lady.  After I described what was happening to my Iwata, I was amazed that her first question was "Were you using Triple Action Handle"? 

Yes, I was! I brought this set from Hobby Lobby last summer.  It helped me hold the airbrush better and take out the needle for quick cleaning.  Loved it!  Unfortunately, the lady said it may have been causing the guide to break if I turn the end of green handle shown in the picture below too tight.  And Iwata has been working to include warning and instructions how to handle it with care. 

She was nice enough to ship me a free replacement.  For now, I will stop using the Triple Action Handle and it is too late to have it returned to the store for refund.  For sure my experience with Iwata customer service was pleasant and helpful. 

I thought I'd warn other Iwata users about this Triple Action Handle set...

 

 

Andy

  • Member since
    September 2008
  • From: Minneapolis MN
Posted by BigSmitty on Monday, January 10, 2011 5:34 PM

Andy

Thanks for the heads up on the QR handle.  I have an HP-CS and never had an issue with anything breaking, but I use the supplied handle.  I almost picked up the triple action handle about 3 months ago, but with my penchant for keeping things tight would have probably had the same issue.  Good to see the Iwata CS folks (at least the one you talked with) know it's an issue, and offered a free replacement.

Matt - IPMS #46275

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  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Indiana
Posted by hkshooter on Monday, January 10, 2011 10:13 PM

I have no use for the handle but would like to add I've had a very pleasant experience with Iwata customer service also. Top rate people.

  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, January 10, 2011 10:30 PM

Exactly!  Thanks HKshooter.  It would be even great if the replacement arrives before Friday becuase I usually work on my kits on weekends.  I will keep y'all posted if it really happens.

Andy

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Posted by scootertrash on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:59 AM

Andy,

 

I have the same airbrush and the Triple Action Handle but have not used the new handle yet (not sure if I will now).  Did the lady at Iwata say how much you should tighten the handle to not have any problems?

 

Thanks!

 

Mark Gauding

  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: Democratic Peoples Republic of Illinois
Posted by Hercmech on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:13 AM

I have the same set up and have not had any problem...yet. Is it caused by turning it too far in or too far out? That is an odd piece for the handle to be breaking, I can see if the silver part of the set up was breaking it, i.e. the part at the end that serves as the neddle chuck.

I will have to be on the lookout for this. Did it give you any indication before it broke?


13151015

  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:25 AM

I didn't ask the lady about this.  She said it happens when it is overtighten.  I am not sure if I really did it...  the silver knob in the end of handle I may have overtighten. At least it is good to know that I still got the strength being 40 years old. Stick out tongue  When it happens, you will immediately notice that the trigger (lever) doesn't feel right and it will spray spots and thicker.  I was very fortunate that it happened twice during primer stage so my work was not ruined!

 

 

Andy

  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Indiana
Posted by hkshooter on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:29 AM

Are you saying that that part being broken free affects the ability of the AB to work properly?

  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:45 AM

That's right. Here's the picture when it happened while I was airbrushing on my little Panzer I Ausf A last summer.  Was applying light gray during pre-shading stage and you will see the spots on the wheels and other area.  It must snapped while airbrushing...

Ordered a replacement from TCP Global online and it arrived within 3 days.  Great service!

No worries... I think my Panzer came out good after I replaced the broken part.  It was not a total loss...  

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Hope this helps...

Andy

  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Indiana
Posted by hkshooter on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:06 AM

I don't doubt your experience but find it odd. When installed, that part is captured and cannot mislocate itself. I'd have thought the operation of the AB would not have changed. There are actually some designs that do not capture those pieces as one assembly and one has to locate the little curved part manually, just like if it's broken loose.
I don't use the handle or even own one but I'll look at my three assemblies a bit closer the next time I clean.

  • Member since
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  • From: Lund, Sweden
Posted by denstore on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:23 PM

You are right. The old style was having the "plunger" and S-shaped "spacer" separate. 

If the new version would break, as in the picture above, an easy solution would be to file the end of the plunger even, and just leave a millimeter or so, to guide the spacer. And then assemble the parts separatly, just as you do on an older version.

Better an airbrush in the hand, than ten in the car....Stick out tongue

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Thursday, January 13, 2011 5:17 PM

Guess what I found in the mailbox today... a package from Iwata as it has arrived already!  Its customer service didn't just send me a replacement.... I got two replacements because I mentioned it broke twice.  And a bottle opener shaped like an Iwata airbrush. Surprise  And a nice note from the lady I talked last Monday.  I have to say that it was one of the best customer service I ever experienced.  Not just a replacement but 'modified'... I recall the lady said something about filing just like denstore mentioned earlier. 

THANK YOU Iwata, Kristin Heart & Kirk.  Because of this I will continue to use Iwata for a very long time and recommend to anybody.   

Can't wait to pop a Beer with my new bottle opener over the weekend... cheers!

Andy

  • Member since
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  • From: Minneapolis MN
Posted by BigSmitty on Thursday, January 13, 2011 5:19 PM

Handwritten note from Customer Service?  Now that's something you don't see every day.  Bonus points for Iwata, says I.

 

Matt - IPMS #46275

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  • Member since
    January 2005
  • From: Cave City, KY
Posted by Watchmann on Thursday, January 13, 2011 5:34 PM

I knew I liked Iwata for some reason. Wink

Can you tell what kind of mod Kirk did to the parts?

m@

  • Member since
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  • From: Maine
Posted by Stage_Left on Thursday, January 13, 2011 11:33 PM

deafpanzer- thanks for sharing your experience and what Iwata sent you in the mail. It's nice to hear when someone goes the extra mile, and while I don't currently own any Iwata products, I will certainly reference your anecdote the next time I go shopping.

  • Member since
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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Friday, January 14, 2011 12:13 PM

Thanks guys!  Just wanted to help friends here in the forum.  Yes

Watchmann, I wish I can answer your question.  I examined the broken and replacement parts... both looks alike but the replacement rod is little shorter.  Kristin mentioned something over the phone about having the part filed. 

Andy

  • Member since
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by Marine Sniper on Saturday, January 15, 2011 1:24 PM

BigSmitty

Handwritten note from Customer Service?  Now that's something you don't see every day.  Bonus points for Iwata, says I.

 

 

Try Badger's service sometime! Wink

Mike

 

 

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Cave City, KY
Posted by Watchmann on Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:43 PM

Thanks Andy, I suspected that was what would do.  I want to get one of those triple action handles sometime in the future.

m@

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  • From: Panama City, Florida, Hurricane Alley
Posted by berny13 on Saturday, January 15, 2011 9:50 PM

About four or five years ago I had a Paasche airbrush that wouldn't work anymore after 30 years of use.  I could no longer get replacement parts because of its age.  I talked with Paasche customer service and they told me to sent it to them and they would try to repair it.  I did and forgot all about it when after two months a package was on the front porch.  When I opened it, there was a new airbrush and a note from the repair center.  It is their polocy if they can not fix it, they will replace it.  Even though the airbrush was over 30 years old, they sent me their newest model as a replacement.

Berny

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  • Member since
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  • From: Salina, Kansas USA
Posted by arnie on Tuesday, March 1, 2011 3:45 PM

I have the same A/B and use the Triple Action handle with great results.  That piece comes off all the time but I just snap it back on with no problems.  My fear is the day I drop it and it's eaten by the carpet monster.

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