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mixing MM acrylics w/future
Posted by checksix214 on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:37 AM

Hi guys, first time in a long time on the forum here. I am considering mixing MM Acrylic with Future to see if that word lay better on models and stick better with out lifting when I mask it. I was wondering if anyone has tried this and what the results were; mixing ratios, etc... I'm thinking maybe mixing it 25/75 future to paint? anyone care to advise?

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:41 AM

I use this technique a lot. I find that once I put the paint into the little cup on my airbrush, only a few drops of Future is necessary (3-4 ish) to help the paint flow better and still keep it flat. A higher Future ratio will start to turn the paints glossy.

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Posted by Hercmech on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:42 AM

I do it and it works good. I can't give you a ratio as I never remember them and each tin is a little different in viscosity. I usually mix it to skim milk like and it works like a champ. I does give the paint a nice semi gloss to gloss look.


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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:56 AM

Don't use MM acryls, but I use Future with Vallejo and it works like a charm.

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Posted by spadx111 on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:15 PM

learned something new today must try this.

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:39 PM

I'm not that adventurous.  I only mix paints with the manufacturer's thinner, and that always works.  Future has screwed up more than one of my models, or perhaps it was my error in technique.  I find it works well for glossing windows and sealing masks around the window frames, but that's about all I use it for.

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Posted by phoneguy on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:40 PM

CallSignOWL

I use this technique a lot. I find that once I put the paint into the little cup on my airbrush, only a few drops of Future is necessary (3-4 ish) to help the paint flow better and still keep it flat. A higher Future ratio will start to turn the paints glossy.

do you thin the MM acrylic at all before adding the future?  this is a new one on me also.  just a ?

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:43 PM

phoneguy

 

 CallSignOWL:

 

I use this technique a lot. I find that once I put the paint into the little cup on my airbrush, only a few drops of Future is necessary (3-4 ish) to help the paint flow better and still keep it flat. A higher Future ratio will start to turn the paints glossy.

 

 

do you thin the MM acrylic at all before adding the future?  this is a new one on me also.  just a ?

 

nope, just the paint with the future

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:48 PM

Cadet Chuck

I'm not that adventurous.  I only mix paints with the manufacturer's thinner, and that always works.  Future has screwed up more than one of my models, or perhaps it was my error in technique.  I find it works well for glossing windows and sealing masks around the window frames, but that's about all I use it for.

Tried that with Vallejo...also tried the recommended water. Neither worked especially well. Through teh airbrush, it was basically like shooting colored water. Runs everywhere. Thinned with Future, you get a gorgeous, smooth, pretty tough surface. 

Ironically, I heard recently that Model Master Acryl thinner works really with with Vallejo. May have to give it a shot. 

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Posted by checksix214 on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:18 PM

well thanks fellas. I like the few drops idea. I hope it works so I'll try it on my 1/144 A-4 Skyhawk. I'll let you guys know how it worked out in a couple days. Thanks a lot; I feel good about trying it now.

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Posted by checksix214 on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:26 PM

Oh one more thought. Did you guys have any issues with the paint pulling off when masking the Future/paint mix?

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:37 PM

Yes, indeed.  I have had problems with Future pulling off with masking tape.  That's why I no longer use it for a gloss coat before applying decals, if I need to mask after that.  I use Testor's gloss coat before decals, then dull coat over decals if that's what the model calls for. 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:00 PM

most of the lifting issues was from the tape: I didn't remove the tackiness before I laid it down.  I did a 1/48 scale Mig-29 in a complex splinter scheme with regular masking tape and had no peeling issues once I removed some of the tapes tackiness before I put it on the model.  And that was with MM Acryl + Future drops.

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