Future making me sick

I use a paint brush to apply Future...since it pretty much levels itself out and no spray mess. So far it has been doing fine.

Thanks  "NervousEnergy" for your time in replying a great help (apologies do not know your Christian name).

Another one of my master ideas down the tubes.

I agree with you on matt or satin coat just a mist obliterates the gloss. I had to touch up an area with a brush which was very visible with the Klear coat. One mist coat of satin & it disappeared.

Laurie

Another option - Alclad's just released a whole load of new clear coats. I'm considering giving them a go, since clears are the one area where I haven't seemed to have found something I really like yet.

Laurie

In place of Klear I am now going to use Vallejo Gloss varnish. It seems to be he same consistency as Klear will do the same job but does not have any detectable odour at all as all their paints. If this works it will give me total Vallejo from primer (superb finish again no need for smoothing before the next coat) to finishing coat.

Very frugal as a paint. Vallejo Model Air is air brush ready. No waste just dispense from the dropper bottle. About 10 drops covered a Spitfire 1/72. About one sixth of a bottle costing £1:50.

Laurie

I just went the other way with the gloss... I've used both Vallejo Gloss and Model Master gloss (clear acrylic), and the problem is that same frugality you mention.  Vallejo Model Air is very flat going on the model, so to get the shiny gloss finish on top of it for doing decals and then another one for doing the pin/panel washes you need to lay down a LOT of gloss... much, much more gloss than you laid down in the base color coats.  If you try and be frugal with it you'll wind up with a pebbled finish... it's got to go down thick.  And that means you'll burn through those little jars of gloss really fast.  I've only built so far in 1/32 scale, though, so the models tend to be a lot bigger.  In 1/72 it may not be much of an issue.

Flattening it up on the final pass is totally different.  Just a light misting with either the Vallejo or Model Master flat clears and that sucker is dead flat.  I know some people mix Tamiya flat base with Future to do the same thing, but it seems like a waste of time given that a $3 bottle of flat will do a dozen 1/32 scale models.

If you can't stand Future then MM or Vallejo gloss clears will work (several have posted here in the past to stay away from Polly Scale clear... I have no personal experience with it), but keep in mind you'll use a lot more of it to gloss up a flat base color coat than you did putting down the colors in the first place.  Buy big jars.

deafpanzer

  Fume from spraying Future can be so overwhelming.  I always wear mask no matter what.

Manny, I am your father...

His finger condom has been compromised! The toxins are entering his body...he'd going to morph into a borg!

Sorry forgot. Vallejo is non toxic.

Thinking about your predicament I think I may try to sideline Klear.

First used enamels but due to the horrible smell & messy nature of the product looked around & decided to have a stab at acrylics.

I have now completed two modesl with Allejo Model Air. All air brushing. I used Klear which was OK & then to finish & get rid of the Klear Gloss I used Vallejo Satin Cote varnish which incidentally after one coat gives a superb finish. They also do a matt if you wish to render less satin.

In place of Klear I am now going to use Vallejo Gloss varnish. It seems to be he same consistency as Klear will do the same job but does not have any detectable odour at all as all their paints. If this works it will give me total Vallejo from primer (superb finish again no need for smoothing before the next coat) to finishing coat.

Very frugal as a paint. Vallejo Model Air is air brush ready. No waste just dispense from the dropper bottle. About 10 drops covered a Spitfire 1/72. About one sixth of a bottle costing £1:50.

Laurie

Worth buying a spray booth rather than suffer form sickness pursuing you pastime.

In the UK they cost about £70 but I have found they are great. I have attached a bathroom ducting kit through the garage door so the built in fan in the spray booth vents all to the outside. With the nose filter jobby you should get near 100% freedom.

Keep the fan on the spray booth going for 15 minutes after you have finished either spraying or brushing Klear.

Also with the respirator filter get a double filter. But most important make sure you buy a good type. These will have a selection of filters for different mediums.

Sucking Polo mints also helps !!!!!  Smelling a fresh cut onion also has a good effect ?

Laurie

deafpanzer

  Fume from spraying Future can be so overwhelming.  I always wear mask no matter what.

Manny, I am your father...

#1 -- I'd ask for a DNA test.

#2 -- Looks like the same respirator I have.

More than likely you are alergic to something in Future that is not in acrylic paint.

My bet would be the fragrence that is added to future.

Several years ago my wife was into "simmer" pots that you pour an oily fragrence liquid into.

There was one "flavor" she bought that the moment I walked into the house my sinuses swelled up and my eyes began to water. She nor anyone else reacted to it, just me. Other "flavors" from the same brand didn't bother me.

Hmm

The Force is strong with this one!

Ventilate & Mask! 

deafpanzer

Manny, I am your father...

Noooooooo!!!!..............

  Fume from spraying Future can be so overwhelming.  I always wear mask no matter what.

Manny, I am your father...

Perhaps you should wear a respirator when you paint.  I don't wear mine as often as I should.

Louse powder does the same thing to me...

Never had a a reaction of any kind but he could be right do you use it in awell ventelated area.

Ron

It might be that you are hypersensitive to the emulsifiers in it. Or even the aromatics used to give it its pleasant aroma.

I think it smells quite nice myself, certainly doesn't make me feel sick...

No,  I couldn't find anything that mixed well with it!!!

The results sometimes make me feel sick, but not the actual product. You're not drinking it or anything, are you?