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Tamiya acrylics help!

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Tamiya acrylics help!
Posted by FalconAbove on Tuesday, April 19, 2011 7:33 PM

I bought a badger 105 airbrush, and I also decided to make the switch to Tamiya acrylics because of all the good things people say about them. So for the last 3 months, I'm still struggling to get results from Tamiya that makes modelling worth it. The finish is rough, dusty, grainy, and orange peels on occasion. For some reason I cant seem to find Tamiya's thinner anywhere.So..for thinning, i have tried 91% iso alcohol with retarder mixed in, and also windshield wiper fluid. My running psi is always between 15-20 and ive tried around 25ish..I feel like im holding the brush the right distance from the model, and i still get a dusty finish and the works. Any help?

I had previously used a Aztek a320 with mm acrylics, and I would be able to get nice, smooth finishes.

Also, is tamiya thinner on re-call?

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Posted by randypandy831 on Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:03 AM

yea, i think their thinner is on recall due to harsh fumes. tamiya is working on it. 

gunze thinner works well with tamiya acrylics. good thing i stocked up on tamiya thinner. 

i haven't had any problems spraying their acrylics with my harbor freight and paasche AB.

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, April 20, 2011 1:37 AM

Your problems are most likely caused by one of, or a combination of the following:

  • Air pressure too high - try somewhere in the region of 12-15 PSI.  20-25 PSI is way too high.
  • Insufficient thinning - Tamiya likes to be airbrushed very thin, maybe thinner than you're used to with other paints. With the thinner you're using now, try 2 parts thinner to one part paint.
  • Airbrushing from too great a distance, causing the paint to dry before it hits the surface you're painting, causing a dusty/gritty finish. My personal preference is to airbrush within 4 inches or so from the subject, perhaps 6 inches maximum.
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Posted by Jon_a_its on Wednesday, April 20, 2011 6:36 AM

As Phill-H said!

I had similar problems with Tamyia, so much so I switched to Vallejo, but I ran out of O/D over a bank holiday weekend! Confused

I used Medeas' Airbrush Cleaner as thinner & Lovely-Jubbley! Stick out tongue, none of the above finish problems!

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Posted by El Taino on Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:09 AM

I've been using Tamiya acrylics for almost 2 years and I'm happy with the results. I originally started with the thinner 'till I found out that 70% rubbing alcohol does the same job for 7x less $$. There is no formula for tinning, some colors might require more thinner than others. I stick to the milk consistency rule with favorable results. As another poster mentioned, I guess you're spraying from afar and the paint is getting dry before reaching your subject.

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Posted by wjbwjb29 on Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:15 PM

I thin Tamiya paint with regular laquer thinner and it sprays beautiful.

Bill

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Posted by carsanab on Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:32 PM

i agree....try using the alcohol without the retarder...could also be a reaction to that...I ve used Tamiyas for years and have had good results...even used good ol h2o...cheap...always availabe...got hard water...by a gallon jug of distilled...

good luck

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Posted by randypandy831 on Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:47 PM

i've been told it can be thinned with some water. im not so sure because i haven't tryed it. 

and yea, spray at a lower pressure. i spray at 12 lowest and 15 highest with great results. 

tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

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Posted by Taps88 on Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:48 AM

I use Tamiya Acrylics also (Testors Acrylics too) and I use 91% Alcohol for thinning on both...nothing else.

 

Make sure you aren't too far away, from the object you're airbrushing, or it does tend to get that "dusty" effect. I normally use between 15-25 PSI, depending on overall spray or detail spray.

 

Which compressor are you using, BTW?

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Posted by FalconAbove on Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:01 PM

I think I have solved my problems with Tamiya acrylics..

1. I realized i wasn't thinning them enough, I thinned them about 2:1 thinner to paint, which greatly improved everything.

2. My psi needed a little tweeking aswell, Phil had suggested between 12-15, I tried that and it just didn't work for me, so i settled on about 17-18 psi.

3. I was also probably holding the brush a bit far from the piece i was working on, i moved in a couple inches, and am training myself to hold it about 4 inches away minimum.

Luckily all of my mistakes were made on scrap models or scrap plastic, so nothing happened on the piece I was currently working on. Thank you for all the help! I now understand why people give so much praise to these paints, if you do everything right with them, they do wonders.

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Posted by randypandy831 on Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:50 PM

the trick is to never spray from a far distance because acrylics will dry and cause it to dry before its on the painted surface. tamiya doesn't need to be thinned a lot. 

has anyone tried thinning with testors/model master acrylic thinner?

tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

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Posted by El Taino on Sunday, April 24, 2011 7:25 AM

randypandy831

has anyone tried thinning with testors/model master acrylic thinner?

I have, by accident / distraction. Nothing either positive or negative happened. It worked as usual. Also by distraction, thinned Model Master Acryl with their AB cleaner. That one I didn't want to risk the model it was going to be used on and threw it away. I just can't start mixing paints when the %$#@& phone starts ringing.

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Posted by randypandy831 on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:47 PM

thanks for the replies! 

i bought the last two bottles at the LHS and went to see if he restocked but hasn't. guess online is the way i gotta go.

tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

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