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Problems with Pollyscale Flat
Posted by Brian D. on Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:45 AM

Lately, when I airbrush Pollyscale flat on my armor models I get that chalky white finish on them.  Is there something I am doing wrong?  Is there something I can do to get a flat finish without the white chalky appearance.

Also, should I be thinning Polyscale with water and if so at what ratio?

Thanks,

Brian

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  • From: Democratic Peoples Republic of Illinois
Posted by Hercmech on Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:00 AM

I have never had any luck using Polly Scale flat. But if you were getting good results before and now are not I would guess that you are not mixing it well enough. What the chalky appearance is indeed talc type stuff in the suspension that is used to flat you paint. Try to stir it more and spray it in thinner layers. But I have found that for me Valejjo flat works better than any other flat I have trie.


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Posted by Brian D. on Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:12 AM

Hey thanks for the reply.  I will do just that plus strain the flat clear.

I had thought about trying Vallejo Flat clear but it seems like I have read that it sometimes come out with a satin or somewhat glossy finish. Is that true?

Brian

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  • From: Democratic Peoples Republic of Illinois
Posted by Hercmech on Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:14 AM

I have not noticed that it was glossy at all. See picture below and see what you think.


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Posted by Brian D. on Thursday, April 21, 2011 2:08 PM

That looks pretty good.  Do you use the Model Air Matt Clear?  If so, do you think it at all?

Thanks,

Brian

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  • From: Democratic Peoples Republic of Illinois
Posted by Hercmech on Thursday, April 21, 2011 2:40 PM

Yes it is model air stuff and no I did not thin it, it's pretty thin out of the bottle. I just did a few light coats, and it dries almost as soon as it touches the model.


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Posted by Brian D. on Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:34 PM

Can you tell me where you buy it?  I can't seem to find in anywhere on-line.

Thanks,


Brian

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  • From: Democratic Peoples Republic of Illinois
Posted by Hercmech on Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:34 PM

I think that Sprue Brothers has it.


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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:37 PM

If you're willing to venture outside of acrylics, given Alclad's new stuff a look-see. Just used their clear matte for the first time last night and LOVED it. I've had all kinds of problems with flats before (including Pollyscale spitting white flecks all over a Dauntless). This is the first product I've used that's worked flawlessly. The also make a gloss, semi-gloss, and flat. The matte is more of a flat with a very subtle sheen to it...they're all mineral spirit based so cleanup's pretty easy.

They also make a Future substitute that's supposed to be amazing. I haven't tried it yet, but I've got a bottle on the paint rack just waiting for an excuse!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Brian D. on Saturday, April 23, 2011 4:53 PM

Can you spray this over acrylic paint like Tamiya?  So this is not lacquer based like the other Aclad paints?  What do you thin it with?

Thanks again,

Brian

 

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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:06 PM

Yeah - I sprayed it on my Achilles last night, which was mostly painted with Tamiya.

It's not lacquer based - but mineral spirits. No thinning necessary, either - it shoots wonderfully right out of the bottle.

I'll post some pics next time I get around to it...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Brian D. on Sunday, April 24, 2011 3:18 PM

That sounds good.  Is there any type of smell to it? If so is it very strong?

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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, April 24, 2011 3:58 PM

No smell that I can pick up. I'd say maybe I'm being attacked by allergies, but I just got done drybrushing some MM Metalizer, and I sure smelled that.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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  • From: San Antonio
Posted by paintsniffer on Sunday, April 24, 2011 3:59 PM

Personally, I use the spray cans of Testors or  Model Master flat or gloss.. And I don't need to clean an airbrush after.

They are Lacquer so they work over Acrylics and Enamels with no problems.

Excuse me.. Is that an Uzi?

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