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Trouble with Badger Crescendo...little help please..

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Trouble with Badger Crescendo...little help please..
Posted by carsanab on Sunday, May 8, 2011 11:58 PM

I have a Badger Crescendo 175 double action...bought it a while back but really am not that familiar with it.....I have always used a single action...I am trying to spray some fine mottle but cant seem to get the hang of it...I dropped the pressure on my compressor to about 15psi or so....thinned the paint a bit more than usual but still dont get a good flow...I get spurts....and the paint really starts to clog up on the needle and nozzle after a while (using Tamiya acrylic) ....as I pull the trigger back I get nothing...sometimes a little thin flow/line which I am happy with....then it stops and comes the "spider". I was reading the manual and it mentions trigger tension...do I need to adjust this to where its barely moves the needle back for minimal flow??? do I need to thin the paint more...

any help would be appreciated..

Carlos

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Posted by Italian Starfighter on Monday, May 9, 2011 4:58 AM

Hi....try to thin your paint more (60% thinner+40%paint),then filter very well ,and try to spray.Then you try to decrease the pression down to 10-12 Psi (so you can work closely your piece..without spider).First press the air valve then move backward the trigger slowly.You should open the needle few to better control the paint.....Try on an old model or cardboard.first of all check your ab for asolutely cleaning....

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Posted by Phil_H on Monday, May 9, 2011 7:14 AM

Yes, for low pressures, ie. 15PSI or less, you want very thin paint. The 60/40 mix suggested is a fair starting point, but I often go higher than that.

It would also help to know what thinner you are using, as this can also modify the behaviour of the paint. 

 

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Posted by Hercmech on Monday, May 9, 2011 10:03 AM

Phil_H

....It would also help to know what thinner you are using, as this can also modify the behaviour of the paint. 

 

Agreed, acrylics can dry pretty quick on the tip and cause the problems you are seeing. Try some laquer thinner and see if that helps at all.


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Posted by carsanab on Monday, May 9, 2011 10:21 AM

I am using the Tamiya thinner....now is laquer thinner compatible with the Tamiya acrylic???? 

I will try again thinning the paint some more....I probably didnt thin enough if everyone is talking about a 6-4 ratio....

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Posted by Hercmech on Monday, May 9, 2011 10:27 AM

carsanab

I am using the Tamiya thinner....now is laquer thinner compatible with the Tamiya acrylic???? 

I will try again thinning the paint some more....I probably didnt thin enough if everyone is talking about a 6-4 ratio....

thanks

Yes it will thin with laquer...very well infact, but it does stink a bit.


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Posted by carsanab on Monday, May 9, 2011 10:30 AM

great I will get a can tonight.....if all goes well, maybe I could finish my 229 this week

 

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Posted by Wingman_kz on Monday, May 9, 2011 9:11 PM

My 175 is kind of slow to respond to the trigger and the more you turn down the air the more sluggish it is. Low pressure is more suited to gravity fed brushes, try turning it up a bit. Try 18 - 20 and see if that helps. If it helps but doesn't clear it up then turn it up a little more. Or thin your paint a little more. Treat it like your single action. The 175 will flow a lot of paint but if you're using the fine needle and tip the paint still needs to be fairly thin. Not so much with the medium needle and tip.

Trigger tension just means how hard it is to pull back on the trigger. If it's real stiff it can make it harder to hit the spot you're looking for and hold it there. I usually adjust my trigger to where there's just enough tension to hold it closed but that usually means trimming the spring too. But if you're used to using a single action it's mainly a matter of retraining your trigger finger. With a little practice you'll have it in no time.

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Posted by Hercmech on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:27 AM

Carlos,

From the looks of the HO I assume you got the AB figured out?


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Posted by carsanab on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:45 AM

nope.....I thinned the paint with laquer thinner.....played with the setting s of the compressor and AB and all I kept getting were spurts and spider.....so I "benched" it and brought out the trusty ol' single action....lowered the psi...thinned the paint, closed the needle and worked much better that the double,,,,,I was able to get the fine lines...a soft touch on the trigger and I was able to control the flow much better than than on the double....sure the edges of the mottle are not that tight but the slight overspray actually tones down the sand color....I'm happy with it....

 

thanks

Carlos

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Posted by Hercmech on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:49 AM

Sorry to hear, I fifgured that it was fixed. From the looks of the HO I would just keep using the ole trusty as you did a great job on it.


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Posted by normanviking on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:29 PM

It sounds like the tip is clogged. I like spraying Tamiya. I use their thinner. About 50/50 with no problems. Thins with acrylics is, they dry quick. While painting I give it full blast every few minutes to get any clogs out, so it will not splatter on the model. Loosen the tightening nut that holds the needle, slide it back enough so it clears the tip, unscrew the nozzle, clean out the tip and nozzle with thinner and a q-tip, delicately wipe off the end of your needle. Try again. Should fix it. Try straining your paint also. You can use a coffee filter.

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