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Posted by amani on Friday, June 10, 2011 2:59 PM

came across this post, not sure if nobody has the experience or dont want to answer, only 1 reply. so let me share my experience. i am an tamiya acrylic guy, build mainly cars and armor, 95% of the body color are acrylic, but now slowly shift to lacquer cans now. i bought my craft acrylic from michaels, but forgot about which brand. i think the main difference between model tamiya acrylic and the craft is the pigmetation. for example, i dilute down the craft flat black so its airbrushable, it looks dark dark grey, not black. i think its missing that rich coloration and coverage. but i do use alot of military colors for washes, shading and things like that. but i wont use the craft colors for solid color usage. i am no expert in coloring, but for military builds most people dont use tamiya, people like me uses it just because its availability.

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  • From: Neenah, WI
Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 2:24 PM

As a paint mfr myself...

There is a plethora of acrylic paints on the market. The one thing you must understand is that most are formulated for a specific or range of applications. Those used in the plastic modeling realm are formulated to adhere to plastic whereas others are made for paper or even fabric.

Each too has its own properties as to how well it covers and at what thickness it must be to get said coverage and provide its specified color. Some go on in minute mils of thickness others seem more like it has to be troweled on.

Yes there are paints that cross over to different surface applications, one has to use what they find works best. Immediate results may prove later to be less than acceptable. Nothing worse than a few weeks or months down the road the paint applied starts to have adverse effects such as flaking, chipping and peeling off.

Not all paints react with all solvents in the same way. Some don't react to clear coats, they might cause crazing in the clear coat.

Windshield washer fluid uses alcohols and glycols which can be used as a thinner for some paints. BEWARE it does pose a breathing hazard! It also may react adversely with some paint formulations. One must always test before application, especially on a model you are building.

As with most paint, you can apply it to just about any surface, however it may not give the desired results. Just because its there on the shelf, cheap and in larger vessels at a most appealing price point, doesn't mean it will work as one wishes. READ THE LABEL.

I met a lady once in the craft store looking for answers about a paint application problem she was having. She showed me the product she was using, I read the label and it clearly stated not for use on wooden or porous surfaces without a primer or sealer applied first. When I showed her this she was furious, then why sell it in a craft store if you can't use it on wooden craft stuff? Now I have ruined my project. Bang Head We'll had you read the instructions ma'am you'd not had the problems you've encountered. And they say women always read or ask for directions. Whistling

You may find that to get the proper adhesion you need, you may first have to properly prime with a product that allows compatibility between the surface material and the paint.

My suggestion is, get yourself a test mule to test the paints you're interested in trying on your models. Don't make the mistake of committing to using them on a build project. If you do and the results are not what you desired...We won't have to tell you...I told you so. Wink

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

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  • From: Utah
new opinions on an old question
Posted by MowerMech on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 1:52 PM

Hey everyone

 I did a search about using craft acrylics and the threads I found were from at least 5 years ago. Thought I'd put it out there again to see if there is any new opinions.

Question - Is anyone here using water based acrylics such as Americana for airbrushing? The old threads had mixed feelings about them. Some people hated them, others used them exclusively. I read that a window washer fluid and future mix ( 75/25 )was being used as a thinner with good results for airbrushing. I've always been an enamel user but was thinking of trying some acrylics ( new to military builds ). The MM brands seem to be hard to find without ordering. I stopped by Micheals and the color options for the water based stuff was pretty impressive. With a little experimenting I would think matching colors should be fairly easy. 

I have no problem ordering Model Specific paint if there is a huge difference in quality,, 

Any recent thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated

Ives ( MowerMech )

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