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what is a pre-set handle for an airbrush?

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  • Member since
    November 2003
  • From: Stockton CA USA
Posted by roosterfish on Monday, January 26, 2004 9:54 AM
If you don't see the needle sticking out the nozzle then you have a clog blocking the nozzle. A big chunk of some type of pigment is rammed into the end of the nozzle. It doesn't really matter what type of pigment you used now because it is a hardened chunk. Try squirting WD-40 and blowing out the nozzle. If you are lucky that will clean the nozzle. If that doesn't work try using a toothpick to GENTLY ream the nozzle clean. If you can find a fine wire you might be able to get that to work through the nozzle. Last try would be to get your needle and gently push your way through the nozzle. A pipe clean can help keep the nozzle clean. Or you could get a new, expensive Iwata, nozzle. Tell me what happens, OK?
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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 9:12 AM
thnks for the replies.
i wasn't aware of what the pre-set handling is all about. but now that i know, i don't think i need one. Smile [:)]
but if i grow 5 years older perhaps, my arthiritis might kick in, so then i will have to get the handling set Big Smile [:D]

yeah, i was wondering if the Hp-c was the best for modeling. it is for illustration and more technical things and all, which i have a background of, but i mainly used it for model kit building.
but i don't make large scale models of vheicles. but rather robotic figures. which is around 12 inches tall at the most. mainly they are around 9-10 inches tall. and the painting spots are rather small.
so i kind of like the iwata hp-c.
but the thing is, certain parts just don't work right sometimes. it doesn't flow right, or the needle tip doesn't show anymore once i stick it into the airbrush. before i was able to see the end of the needle point sticking out of the tip of the airbrush body. but now i don't.
i'll check into different airbrushs. iwata and badger and all. i have never used badger though. how much would this go for?
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 3:15 AM
I've got an Eclipse HP-SBS. This is the side-cup model with a .35mm nozzle & needle.
I fitted a preset handle, which limits the travel of the needle. The airbrush still acts like a dual action, but the maximum paint flow is limited by adjusting the rear screw.

I find the preset handle really useful for fine lines and detailing. Without it I sometimes pull the trigger too far, making a real mess. Middle age is affecting my co-ordination!

Cheers
  • Member since
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  • From: Stockton CA USA
Posted by roosterfish on Monday, January 26, 2004 1:17 AM
The HP-B and HP really are illustration airbrushes and as such they are meant to use water based paint and inks. I have both. The nozzle needle combination of the HP-B is 0.2 mm and the HP-C is 0.3 mm. The nozzles are really too small for model paints that have pigments. You could consider two options. One, you could get an air brush that has a bigger nozzle that you can use with model paints like Badger, Thayer & Chandler Omni, Paasche or Iwata Revolution sells. Two, you can get an Iwata four piece conversion for the HP-C that modifies the air brush so it has a larger nozzle (0.4 mm). But the conversion is not cheap at $53.70 at Dixie Art and $65 at Bear Air. For the price of the conversion parts you could buy a decent air brush.
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  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Sunday, January 25, 2004 10:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by lonerbboy

does anyone think that the Hp-B is a better investment?
i am painting mostly robotic models. so sometimes i like to put highlights. the hpc is really good. but is the hp b better?


No the HP-B is not better, it is just a different tool for a different job.
I would consider both as overkill for modeling as they are illustration airbrushes.
Have you always had trouble with the HP-C?

QUOTE: and i have come across a question.
what is a "pre-set handle?"
i don't know what i have. but it's easy to use. it has a spring in the back and the design seems different from the one pictured.

can anyone tell me what the difference is between the pre-set handle and an original airbrush?

any help will be great.


The pre-set handle allows you to set the needle where you want it at and have it spray at that setting, essentially it turns the airbrush into a single-action.

Mike

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  • Member since
    November 2005
what is a pre-set handle for an airbrush?
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:40 PM
i am thinkin of purchasin a new airbrush. mine is gettin annoyin to handle. i don't know what's dirty not. and i have certain problems with air pressure coming through the airbrush and the paint spittin out in spots. and also, the airbrush get's clogged too easily. don't know how to fix it.
but i have using the iwata hp-c. does anyone think that the Hp-B is a better investment?
i am painting mostly robotic models. so sometimes i like to put highlights. the hpc is really good. but is the hp b better?

and i have come across a question.
what is a "pre-set handle?"
i don't know what i have. but it's easy to use. it has a spring in the back and the design seems different from the one pictured.

can anyone tell me what the difference is between the pre-set handle and an original airbrush?

any help will be great.
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