First Time AB Buyer

PreacherTim

Member since
January 2004
From: Ponce, Puerto Rico

First Time AB Buyer

Posted by PreacherTim on Monday, January 26, 2004 7:53 PM

First time poster, and first time shopper.
I am trying to decide on which air brush I should purchase as my first serious effort to do a reasonably good looking model. I am not what I would call an excellent modeler, but I enjoy it very much. I have read nearly all the messages on the Airbrush buying guide and I appreciate all the insights and experience. However, I would like to hear a few suggestions from ya'll about purchasing an AB for the first timer. I am considering the Badger 150-7 from hobby-airbrushes.com. I read where someone said to never order on line, but since I am an Independent Baptist Missionary in Peru, South America, I haven't much choice. I am looking for an AB that I will be able to continue to use for quite some time, even if (or when) my airbrushing skills improve...a kind of all around, but GOOD airbrush. I've looked at the Omni, the Vega and the Badger. Money definately IS an object here. Should I use a single action, double action, gravity, side or bottom feed...etc?
I would really appreciate some input prior to ordering. Thanks!

Tim Schmidt

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Monday, January 26, 2004 8:16 PM

Greetings brother.

There are several good models to choose from and my advice would be that if you are planning on painting camo patterns on aircraft freehand then don't even waste your time with a single-action airbrush and get yourself a good double-action model. As you probably know from reading my posts, I prefer Badger/Thayer & Chandler airbrushes, but there are other brands that are also excellent. If money is an object as you said it was, then I would go with a Badger myself. I recommend either the Badger 150 that you mentioned or an Omni 3000 or 4000 depending on your preference.

PS As a fellow believer I appreciate your work as a missionary in Peru.
May God use you in a big way over there my friend.

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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PreacherTim

Member since
January 2004
From: Ponce, Puerto Rico

Posted by PreacherTim on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 12:08 PM

Thanks, Mike for the reply and the insight. I value your input, and was excited that someone read and replied so quickly!. Thanks also for the very kind words and encouragement. I believe I will go ahead with the order for the Badger.

Again, Thanks.
P.S. Great favorite quote (profile)! Big Smile [:D]

Tim Schmidt

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:55 PM

for first time buyers, AVOID AZTEC LIKE THE PLAGUE!!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:55 PM

am in the midst of assembling a tiger I, please can you explain to me what a wash meant? how do you do it? tnx!

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PreacherTim

Member since
January 2004
From: Ponce, Puerto Rico

Posted by PreacherTim on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 6:11 AM

The term "wash" is usually used in refrence to the wind or thrust created by the propeller as it is spun around it's axis. The wash on some of the older aircraft was directed either a few degrees left or right (depending on the rotation of the engine) or a few degrees up or down. The reason for the wash was to counteract against the torque or twist created by the engine. I used to fly R/C models, and a certain pre determined amount of down and left angles (if I remember correctly) was used in order to create thrust at a very slight angle so as to provide for a straight and stable flying model. It may be that your model requires a little of this for authenticity. A little more info. from you as to what step in the process you are in, or a "for instance" would help clarify your question. I hope this helps you; I am, however pulling this from memory as all my books on Aeronautical terms are in storage in the States.

Tim Schmidt

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 6:36 AM

Tim,

I think he meant "wash" in relation to the the weathering process of a model, but I could be wrong. I think he posted in the wrong thread as I saw no mention of any "wash" in this thread. Wink [;)]

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 7:15 AM

Tim, I'm with Mike on the Badger front.

Currently I run a single action Badger 200. It's a good brush, but has its limitations, notably a lack of finesse when doing camo in 1/72. As a result I'm about to get an Omni 4000. However you can't beat it for ease of use, and as a general area covering, my weakest area with a conventional bristle brush, it is great.

You might want to try:

www.dixieart.com

Their site is an eye opener.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Kumy

Member since
December 2002
From: Steeler Country

Posted by Kumy on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:09 AM

I think Mike was right.... the question about a "wash" was meant to be about weathering a Tiger that somehow got mixed into this thread by mistake. I wonder if anybody answered his question.

And I'm not sure Dixieart is a viable source for Tim cuz of his location but he can at least look around there site.

As for Aztek... I own one... they aren't bad... they do have limitations and drawbacks. Some people love them... some hate them. In the end I think you might be better off going with the Omni suggested or if you don't mind spending a little more you could get an Iwata Eclipse.

Right now I'm really thinking of picking up an Omni myself. It sounds like a nice AB.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 9:28 AM

For model building I would also consider the Badger 155 Anthem. You don't have to deal with multiple tips and needles like the Badger 150 to get most of the spray patterns you need. It is also slightly less expensive.

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PreacherTim

Member since
January 2004
From: Ponce, Puerto Rico

Posted by PreacherTim on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 1:16 PM

Duh! (Good laugh) After re-reading Rommeltolentino's post, with the fact that were in a painting thread- in mind, I feel quite the dummy giving the answer I did! Excuse the rookie, guys! But hey, it sounded really good though, huh?

Tim Schmidt

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roosterfish

Member since
November 2003
From: Stockton CA USA

Posted by roosterfish on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 1:28 PM

I like the way the Omni AB acts and the precision patterns it sprays. I would recommend the AB.

Time for me to do the "wash". :D

Winners never quit; quitters never win.

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 9:39 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Kumakichi

Right now I'm really thinking of picking up an Omni myself. It sounds like a nice AB.

Kumakichi,

Shoot me an email please.

Thanks

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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