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Flat coat options...
Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, July 15, 2011 7:21 AM

Hey gang, I've been using Testors rattle-can clear flat for years. It stinks, oversprays all over the place & is probably not the most economical option. But my LHS always had the stuff & I never had any "finish" problems with it.

Now I'm down to the last few sprays on my last can. The "localist" LHS is more than an hour away now & I have no real need to order a batch of anything online right now. Has anyone found a decent option at WalMart, Michael's etc. that is suitable for plastic models? Or do you have any other suggestions? Thanks in advance,

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Posted by Reasoned on Friday, July 15, 2011 7:33 AM

I also use Testors but have found that spraying too far away can cause the orange peel effect.  I would imagine using a flat clear for plastic or general purpose by another manufacturer should work.  I have used Valspar and Deft before with mixed results but I think it was more operator related.  As always, test it first and try different distances.

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Posted by Jester75 on Friday, July 15, 2011 7:41 AM

You cant get it from Walmart but Hobby Lobby carries it. I use Testors Flat Acryl for the majority of my flat finishes. I know there are quite a few out there who have had trouble with it but as long as you thouroughly mix it, it does quite nice and it doesnt stink (at least to me anyway).

Eric

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, July 15, 2011 7:46 AM

Well they won't have it, but Tamiya's Flat Clear rattle-in-a-can is pretty excellent. 

As for the other rattlecan makers, if I had to go with one, I'd go with Krylon. I know they make a Matte Finish, and probably a semi-flat like a satin or something. Just watch out that you don't accidentally buy dulling spray. It's a temporary finish that's used in photography sometimes to knock down glare.

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Posted by p38jl on Friday, July 15, 2011 7:53 AM

I've used Kylon with good to mixed results.. they also make about 5 differant finishes.. gloss,, semi gloss, matte, eggshell.. flat..

just dont load it on.. it can rewet, and float your first coats.. and or craze.. go lightly..

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Posted by Hercmech on Friday, July 15, 2011 8:21 AM

I know it is not going to help, since they don't have it at Walmart... but if you have not tried Valeijo model air flat you really need to give it a try.


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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, July 15, 2011 8:56 AM

In addition to the Krylon clears that someone else mentioned, I have used clear polyurethane varnish.  In fact, one advantage to them is some mfgs offer a satin (not quite flat, not quite gloss) which is hard to find in hobby paints.  As it comes in the can, I find polyurethane varnishes to thick, so I thin them 1:1 for airbrushing.  They are compatible with decals and both enamel and acrylic paints.

I also use them for coating homemade decals- they do not shrink/curl the decals as much as Testors Dullcoat or Glosscoat.  For decal coating I just use a rattlecan.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, July 15, 2011 1:47 PM

OK, I ran out quickly at lunch & grabbed a can of Krylon satin - it's actually an acrylic base? I'll have to be careful not to use too much at once, as mentioned above. I wonder how well it plays with a coat of Future underneath? I'll have to find some donor parts to test it with. Hmm

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Posted by p38jl on Friday, July 15, 2011 2:15 PM

if you've never used it... test it.. in my humble experience.. it depended on what it went over..it also comes out quickly, so don't make slow passes... to much build up might cause crazing..

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, July 18, 2011 10:23 AM

p38jl

if you've never used it... test it.. in my humble experience.. it depended on what it went over..it also comes out quickly, so don't make slow passes... to much build up might cause crazing..

...and I've been told I'm already crazy enough...  I don't really have a test mule - maybe I can prep / paint / Future the inside of something big, like the wing of a P38, then try the Krylon on it, see how it reacts to my usual methods. Hmm

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